A large number of these cars have been dismantled to facilitate the construction of fake type 43s and fake type 35s.

Here are some notes of known cars.

Observations welcome :

38101
The first type 38 delivered, to Leo d’ Erlanger, in March, 1926. It was one of nine sent to the UK in 1926. A further eight were imported in 1927 and 1928, including three supercharged type 38C (or 38A as they became known). The internet site bugattibuilder.com shows 38101 at the Het Loo event in 2006. It is listed as a type 38/44 and shown fitted with a dark blue GP-style body. The car has appeared at the Goodwood Festival of Speed and carries the Netherlands reg. no. PX 41·82. (Van Egmond ?).

38103
A car was listed in 1962 and 1973 in the ownership of R. Elizalde of Segurola 890, 10C, Buenos Aires, Argentina. The 2007 publication “Bugatti Argentina” lists Atkinson as a previous owner but gives no further information apart from a reference to its “2 door Cabriolet Gangloff”. This information was reported by Horacio Speratti.

38107
A car pictured on the “Bugattibuilder” website with registration AB-28-52. The car is fitted with a Torpedo two-seater body with dickey.

38129
A car listed in 1973 fitted with engine 116 and in the ownership of J.R. Vina in Madrid.

38136
A car listed in 1973 fitted with engine 33. “(J. de Dobbeleer, Brussels – sold ?)”

38142
The no. reportedly stamped on the engine mountings of the Indianapolis car owned by Horridge in the fifties.

38163
Fitted with a Figoni body. In 1954 the car was purchased by Bud Lutza, an American working for the US Government in Casa Blanca. He shipped the car to his home in San Jose, California and distmantled it with the intention of carrying out a restoration. In the belief that they were unoriginal, he disposed of its seats and purchased new blocks, water ump, manifold, etc. directly from Molshiem. In 1967 the still dismantled car was acquired by Ernie Mendicki (whose address was listed in Autumn 1999 as 10290, Imperial Avenue, Mona Vista, California 95014). He sold it around 1969/70 to finance a Ferrari project. Its new owner was Bill Hinds who ran a resoration business in Monterey, California. Hinds hit financial difficulties and the car was broken-up. Bob Seiffert used the chassis and engine to construct a Grand Sport-bodied car and was issued with a replacement chassis plate for the car by the UK BOC on 31st January, 2003. The original body reappeared on a Delahaye frame owned by Jim Proffit in Long Beach California.

38164
Listed in 1973 with engine 55 in the ownership of J. Hruska in Prague, Czechoslovakia. Pictured on the bugattibuilder.com web site in a museum fitted with a later (?) white touring body. 2007 – Autoworld, Brussells*.

38169
A car listed in 1973 in the ownership of R. Corniére in Paris.
38173
A car listed in 1973 owned by M. Pollock in Pennsylvania, USA. It had been fitted with an eight-cylinder engine from a 1926 type 35, 4834.

38174
A car fitted with engine no. 88. The car’s engine and gearbox were found in a breakers yard on Great Portland Street, London, UK in the mid-thirties by Tokutaro Hama who was studying in the UK at this time. The British Registration Index lists “37174?” against the UK registration YR 4662. The engine re-appeared in a kit of bits assembled by the late Henry Posner which formed the basis for a type 38 special with the engine supercharged and the car fitted with a Grand Sport-style body. It was issued with the BOC identification BC 130.
38175
A 1929 type 38 fitted with a Compton four-seater touring body and issued with the UK reg. no. MS 7594. The car passed through the hands of A. Laing around 1939, A.C. “Twink” Wincop and M.E. Guadin. It was listed, painted green, in 1954 in the ownership of J. Howell of High-Wood, Worplesdon Hill, Woking and was next owned by W.G. Griffiths and V. Ponting. In 1962 it was acquired by Geoffrey St. John who removed the engine for spares for his type 35B and then sold the rest of the chassis which was then said to have been broken up. Note : the car’s reg. no. has re-appeared on a type 44 Grand Sport with chassis plate BC 019. The car appeared on the 1990 IBC Wales rally carrying no. 20. It owner was listed as Allan McNab from Hitchin, Hertfordshire, UK.

38191
A picture exists of this car at a pre-war event at the Velodrome of Parc des Princes sporting a two-seater open body with long pointed tail, double “moulded” aero screens and polished aluminium wheel discs. The car is still in existence in the USA. See the “genuine pictures” section on www.club-bugatti-france.net. M.S. Cleary was issued with a replacement chassis plate by the UK BOC on 12th June, 2003.

38219
A car with engine no. 121 listed in 1973 in the ownership of J.R. Vina in Madrid, Spain.

(38239)
A car with engine no. 350C listed in 1973 in the ownership of A. Soderstrom in Malmo. The engine was believed to have come from car 38468.

38240
A car with engine no. 151 listed in 1973 in the ownership of F. Willis in Pennsylvania, USA.

38243
A 1926 car with engine no. 135 listed in 1973 in the ownership of R. Lee in San Paolo. 1926. Offered for sale in 2004 for $150,000. Picture on Bugatti Pages.

38248*
A car with engine no. 162 listed in 1973 in the ownership of L. Gotthainer in New Jersey, USA. Believed to have been broken up in the eighties.

38260
A car pictured in Price’s “Bugatti – The 8-Cylinder Touring Cars” (p.18) which has been fitted with new roadster coachwork.

38275
A car with engine no. 209 which was listed in 1973 fitted to a car with chassis no. (38470) in the ownership of W. Steddeford of Jacksonville, USA.

38280
A 1927 car with engine no. 228. The car is pictured in “Bugatti Argentina” (p.212) in c. 1956 driven by Peter R. Heslop in Buenos Aires and in its rebuilt “better than original” conditon with a no. plate reading T-38-1927. The car’s owners are listed as Federico James, Peter Pritchard Heslop, Hugo Tedin, “Cacho” Pieres, Emilio Ramírez and Manuel Eliçábe. The pictures show a Grand Sport body and alloy wheels. The body was assembled c. 1960 whilst in the ownership of “Cacho” Pieres probably retaining some original panels. On 16th September, 2005 the car appeared at the Autoçlásica, San Isidro. In July 2006 it was purchased by Eliçabe and christened “Mirta”. In October 2006 it again appeared at the Autoçlásica, San Isidro. Conway’s 1973 Register lists F. Foresti of Buenos Aires as the owner – there is no mention of anyone with this name in “Bugatti Argentina”.

38289
A car listed in 1973 in the ownership of L. Creasey in Victoria, Australia.

38292
A car listed in 1973 in the ownership of Fritz Schlumpf. On display at the Mulhouse museum fitted with a maroon two-seater body vaguely similar to a Grand Prix.

38298
Torpedo body - Mulhouse ?
38328
Rebuilt by John Horton with a roller-bearing crankshaft and crankcase from a type 43 giving a larger than standard capacity. 1990 – J.Horton, IBR no. 43 “Type 43 Grand Sport 38328 BC” picture shows UJ 2552. Spring 1994 ; article published entitled Le Chassis 2 litre “Type 38” 11CV Tourisme”.

38333
It appeared at the 2005 Bugatti Festival in Molsheim with the reg. no. EB 1927. Grand Sport body, disc wheels. Very stylish. B.68/4/35.

38340
A 1927 car fitted with an unusual faux cabriolet “Fiacre” body by Lavocat et Marsaud. The car carries the French registration 4692 JC 75.

38347
A car with engine no. 221 listed in 1973 in the ownership of R. Townsley in Kansas, USA.

38385
Owned by Junek in 1927. The car has survived and is fitted with an uninspiring looking body painted blue. Picture of engine shows fitment of twin SU carburettors.

38390
Engine no. Year made :1929. Factory invoice : 1929. Reg. no. Coachwork : Cabriolet. Coachbuilder : Labourdette. Owners & history 1981: (Car no. 028 - Rencontre Mondiale du Centenaire Ettore Bugatti).

38397
A car pictured in unrestored condition in the USA in Price’s book “The 8-Cylinder Touring Cars” (p.13). The car is shown as being complete (except for its bonnet) and is apparently completely original. It carries a French registration ; 319 BZ 26 (?).

38400
A car with engine no. 384 listed in 1973 in the ownership of A. Monin, Brussels, Belgium. Fitted with a blue open body with red uphostery. Offered for sale by Bruno Vendiesse in 2006 and in 2007 at Retromobile and Techno Classica. Pictured on the bugattibuilder.com web site.

38402
A car with engine no. 255 listed in the early seventies in the ownership of J. Belada in Prague, Czechoslovakia. It later appeared in a German museum where it carried the reg. no. RC 72-59. Exported from UK to Switzerland in 1990.

38404
A car listed in 1973 in the ownership of Fritz Schlumpf.
38406
A car listed in 1973 in the ownership of B. Street, Victoria, Australia.

38407
A car listed in 1973 in the ownership of J. Gerdes of Charleston, USA.

38413
Issued with the UK reg. no. YX 9947.
38428
A car with engine no. 332 listed in 1973 in the ownership of John Hearne in New Zealand. In October, 1982 it was listed as having been exported from the UK to Belgium.

38429
A car with engine no. 334 imported new into New Zealand in 1928. Listed in 1954 in the ownership of R.J. Roycroft of Glen Murray Motors, and, in 1973 in the ownership of J.P. Southward in New Zealand.

38435
A type 38A with engine no. 338C which appeared in the 1932 film “Christopher Strong” with Katherine Hepburn. It was listed in 1973 in the ownership of R. Kountz in California, USA.

38444
A 1927 car. Owned by Michael Jackson in Mere, Cheshire, UK then Captain Bobby. Listed in 1954 as being kept in Germany by Lieutenant M. Pornett of Tiresford, Tarporley, Cheshire, UK. The car carried the “British Zone” reg. no. 8815 B2. It was listed in 1973 in the ownership of R. Payne in Birmingham, U.K.*

38453
A car with engine no. 137 listed in 1973 in the ownership of Henri Novo in Paris, France. Picture of the car at Prescott. . Blue roadster body.

38463
Exported to France in 2000.
38464
A car listed in 1973 in the ownership of J. Watson of Johannesburg, South Africa.

38470
UK reg. no. PG 1593. (Frank Gilbert owned a car with this reg. no. but thought the chassis had started life as a type 43.)

(38470)
A car with engine no. 209 (from car 38275) listed in 1973 in the ownership of W. Steddeford of Jacksonville, USA (number not confirmed).

38471
A type 38A with engine 364C. Fitted with a Grand Sport body and with wire wheels. Issued with the UK registration PL 3265. Pictured in “Bugantics” (p. in April 1932.

38477
A type 38A. It was probably imported into Sweden around 1930 by Uno Ranch in Gothenburg. At some time therafter the engine was wrecked and the chassi shortened. It was acquired in this condition in 1938 by Bengt Lof (in the 1962 Register his address was given as Eriksgatan 5, Vasteras, Sweden). Lof ran the car with an OHV Ford Model A engine. He still owned the car in the early seventies.

Good info. I am sure this will find it's way into the WIKI

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To add to Legaleagle's list, the following from Du Gan's history of 43173/14



"Delivered May 1927 to Paris Showroom." (Confirmed by Conway)

"History :

This car is now in the National Museum at Mulhouse, France with the catalogue Nr of 0620. Its history is unknown. However a T38(38443) entered Switzerland on 15 March 1930, Q8745, with the engine from this car. That engine is now in 43164. Bodywork is a Cabriolet, wire wheels and is painted yellow with black fenders and trim with unusually small headlights. Possibly Ermini (sic?) & Rossi. No other information regarding the presently installed engine."




Now compare 43173 with this photo from Wiki's entry for T38(38443) Looks like the same coachwork to me, although I can't tell if that valance is the only difference at the front, near the bottom of the radiator. I can offer no solution, I am way to tired to think of a witticism and I am not allowed to be insulting. Anymore. Anyone else want to have a go?

Regards
Johan

Quite some similarities, but also differences. However, the differences are so small they can be caused by a restauration or amendment in the past.

At least the large wheel spinners are gone...

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The car shown as chassis 38397 on page no. 13 of Barrie Price's "The 8-Cylinder Touring Car" is actually chassis no. 38347, the ex-Russell Townsley car now with Dr. Michael Jukes of Florida. The car has it's bonnet and is complete in every respect. Restoration is planned...at some point.