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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:36 pm 
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what happend with the engine carriers radius ?


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:08 pm 
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Udolahr wrote:
in the drawing 41ch216 radius at the rear end is 60mm ?


My drawing clearly shows an end radius of 80mm not 60mm
Please explain the other errors you seem to have found.
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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:12 pm 
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nicefloor wrote:
I did. there was 1 error....a radius if I remember correctly....but I don't remember which one.

Here is a partial view from one of my CAD drawings.
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Please explain what you want to show us with this strange drawing as this can hardly be considered an image of the real thing.
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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:48 am 
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first question mark left , what is it for ? I can not see it in any foto .
second question mark , radius in the drawing is 60mm . I think it must be much smaller .
third , is the original tapered ?
the radius in my drawing looks like 60 , but it can be a coppy mistake . In " Schema De Carrosserie N 035 " it shows 80mm .


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:43 pm 
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nobody knows anything about it? I found this fotos in the internet .


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:01 pm 
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http://www.bugattibuilder.com/photo/dis ... 151&pos=23


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:36 am 
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Bugwrench wrote:

Please explain what you want to show us with this strange drawing as this can hardly be considered an image of the real thing.
Bugwrench


Please remember, when I make drawings, I do them to build something. This drawing, though strange to you, is wonderful to me. It is a drawing of a T-35 frame, to Bugatti drawings, but modified to cut panels that will later be formed and welded into frame rails. The small triangles cut into the rails are registration points and places to clamp the panels together when welding. Once welded and ground, the frame looks very much like a stamping. That's what I wanted to show you.


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:01 pm 
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nicefloor wrote:
Bugwrench wrote:

Please explain what you want to show us with this strange drawing as this can hardly be considered an image of the real thing.
Bugwrench


Please remember, when I make drawings, I do them to build something. This drawing, though strange to you, is wonderful to me. It is a drawing of a T-35 frame, to Bugatti drawings, but modified to cut panels that will later be formed and welded into frame rails. The small triangles cut into the rails are registration points and places to clamp the panels together when welding. Once welded and ground, the frame looks very much like a stamping. That's what I wanted to show you.


It was very obvious and not at all strange to me what the purpose of your drawing was but I wanted you to explain to the less technical educated Forum readers that this had nothing in common with an original chassis drawing. Thanks.
Bugwrench


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:25 pm 
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Nobody can say anything about the t41 chassis questions ?
first question mark left , what is it for ? I can not see this part in the foto . Greg ?


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:27 pm 
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what was the question?


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:06 pm 
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look in the cad drawing . the top drawing with the 3 question marks . The cad drawing I made looks a little differend in my computer , but why ?
530 mm from the front , what is it for . I can not see it in the fotos .


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:19 pm 
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The 530 mm is the break point for the taper. The brackets underneath were not used as the radiator mounting method did not use them.


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:25 pm 
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so the 2 70mm wide brackets for the radiator mounting are only in the drawing . The real car does not have them .
What about the engine mounting brackets ? In the drawing the bracket has 60mm Radius . It looks to me the real radius at the car is smaller .
And the taper at the end of the chassis ? Is there a taper ? Or is the taper only in the drawing .


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:02 pm 
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The rads on the engine mount tabs are correct and the chassis does taper at the rear as in the drawing.


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 Post subject: Re: Chassis drawings
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:32 pm 
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are the 2 front ends parallel ? Or they are bent outwards ? If I take the 512 mm and ad 2 times 65mm I get 642 mm . The front shows 650mm .


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