The Junek racers.

anjakub · **Posted:** Tue May 25, 2010 3:04 pm

1) Vincenc Junek > not Čeněk Junek. Why not?

Čeněk is diminutive Vincenc frequently used when Juneks raced.

bugatti69 · **Posted:** Tue May 25, 2010 4:03 pm

as

"Sabipa" > Louis Charavel
"Barowski" > Claude Bossu
"Williams" > William Grover
"Heldé" > Pierre Louis Dreyfus
"Foc" > Foc-Matussière
"Marko" > Edgard Markiewicz
"Philippe" > Philippe de Rothschild

and others....

Uwe · **Joined:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:12 pm **Posts:** 2285

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All information appears in this book.
From page 55 up to and including page 71.

ISBN:80-7037-105-6

bugatti69 · **Posted:** Wed May 26, 2010 5:45 pm

Eliska Junek et Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek:

29-04-1923
VII° Zbraslav - Jiloviste (CZ)
T29/30 #4001 #82 Eliska Junek / Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 2nd

1923
Plzni a v Rumburku
T32 #4059 Eliska Junek / Vincenc "Cenek" Junek 1st

22th July 1923
I° Hill climb in Karlovy Vary
T29/30 #4001 Vincenc "Cenek" Junek

16-09-1923
International hill climb Lochotín-Tremosna
T32 #4059 Eliska Junek / Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st

30-09-1923
Hill Climb Schober-Rumburk
T32 #4059 Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek / Eliska Junek, Best time

20-04-1924
VIII° Zbraslav - Jiloviste
T29/30 #4001 N-469 (CS): #85 Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek

04-05-1924
I° International hill-climb Brno-Soběšice, Brno
T29/30 #4001 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek

06-07-1924
IV° International hill climb Schöber near Rumburk
T29/30 #4001 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek DNF

20-07-1924
II° Hill climb in Karlovy Vary
T29/30 #4001 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek

07-09-1924
International hill climb Lochotín-Tremosna
T29/30 #4001 (#38) Eliska Junek: 4th
T35 #4328 N-498(CS): #32 Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 2nd

21-09-1924
IV° Ecce Homo, Sternberk, category of touring automobile
T29/30 #4001 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 5th

13-04-1925
IX° International hill climb Zbraslav-Jiloviste
T29/30 #4001: #88 Eliska Junek 9th
T35 #4328 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 2nd

10-05-1925
II° International hill-climb Brno-Soběšice, Brno
T29/30 #4001 Eliska Junek 5th
T35 #4328 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st

07-06-1925
II° Dubi-Cinovec hill climb
Panhard-Levassor: Eliska Junek
T35 #4328 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st

00-06-1925
Teplic
T35 #4328 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st

05-07-1925
V° International hill-climb Schober-Rumburk
T29/30 #4001: Eliska Junek 4th
T35 #4328 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st

12-07-1925
III° International hill-climb Karlovy-Vary
T29/30 #4001: Eliska Junek 10th
T35 #4328 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 2nd

09-05-1926
X° International hill climb Zbrasla-Jiloviste
T35 #4328 : Eliska Junek 2nd
T35 #4572: Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 3rd

23-05-1926
National hill-climb Knoviz-Olsany
T35 #4328 : Eliska Junek 4th
T35 #4572: Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st

06-06-1926
III° International hill-climb Brno- Sobesice
T35 #4328 : Eliska Junek 3rd
T35 #4572: Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 4th

13-06-1926
VI° International hill-climb Schober-Rumburk
T35 #4572: Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st
T35 #4328 : Eliska Junek 3rd

11-07-1926
IV° International hill-climb Karlovy-Vary
T35 #4572: Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st

08-08-1926
Klausenpass Hill-climb Grand Prix of Switzerland
T35 #4328 : Eliska Junek 2nd

19-09-1926
VI° Ecce Homo, Sternberk
T35 #4328 : #67 Eliska Junek 6th
T35 #4572 or T35B #4815 ? : #78 Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st

28-09-1926
International hill-climb at Hrebenky in Praque
T35B #4815 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st
T35 #4328 : Eliska Junek 2nd
T29/30 #4001: Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 6th

24-04-1927
XVIII° Targa-Florio
T35B #4815: #34 Eliska Junek DNF (Automobiles Ettore bugatti)

08-05-1927
XI° International hill-climb Zbraslav-Jiloviste
T35B #4815 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 2nd
T35C #4831 : Eliska Junek 31th

15-05-1927
National hill-climb Knoviz-Olsany
T35B #4815 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st
T35C #4831 : Eliska Junek 3rd

05-06-1927
IV° International hill-climb Brno-Sobesice
T35B #4815 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st
T35C #4831 : Eliska Junek 1st category 2l.

19-06-1927
II° International race Karlova-Studanka
T35B #4815 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st
T35C #4831 : Eliska Junek DNF

17-07-1927
II° Großer Preis von Deutschland, Nürburgring, 17th July 1927
T35C #4831 : #21 Eliska Junek 1st

14-08-1927
Coupe des dames-Montlhery
T35B #4815: #9 Eliska Junek 1st

11-09-1927
Hill climb Svaty-Kopecek near Olomouc
T35B #4815 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 1st
T35C #4831 : Eliska Junek 2nd

18-09-1927
VII° Ecce Homo, Sternberg
T35B #4815 : Čeněk Junek 1st
T35C #4831 : Eliska Junek DNF

16-10-1927
II° Grand Prix du Salon, Montlhéry
T35B #4815: #1 Eliska Junek

06-05-1928
XIX° Targa-Florio
T35B #4868: #58 Eliska Junek 5th

03-06-1928
III° International race Karlova-Studanka
T35B #4868 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek DNF

24-06-1928
V° National hill climb Knoviz-Olsany
T35C #4831: Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 3rd
T35 #4328 : Eliska Junek 6th

15-07-1928
III° Großer Preis von Deutschland, Nüburgring,
T35B #4868: Vincenc Junek DNF (Vincenc Junek: fatal accident)

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anjakub · **Posted:** Wed May 26, 2010 8:36 pm

Eliska Junek and Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek:

29-04-1923
VII° Zbraslav - Jiloviste (CZ)
T30 #4001 #82 Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek (driver)?Eliska Junek (copilot) - 2nd (general)
On entry list: #78 Čeněk Junek (Mercedes) in touring cars, class over 6700.

20-04-1924
VIII° Zbraslav - Jiloviste
T29/30 #4001 N-469 (CS): #89 Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek - 1 st (touring cars, class 2200)

13-04-1925
IX° International hill climb Zbraslav-Jiloviste
T29/30 #4001: #88 Eliska Junek 9th (1 st sports clas, class 2000)
T35 #4328 : #93 Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 2nd (and 1st - race cars, class 2000)

09-05-1926
X° International hill climb Zbraslav-Jiloviste
T35 #4328 : #69 Eliska Junek 2nd (1st sports cars, class 2000)
T35C #4572: #78 Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 3rd (1st race cars, class 2000)

08-05-1927
XI° International hill-climb Zbraslav-Jiloviste
T35B #4815 : Vincenc "Čeněk" Junek 2nd (1st race ars, class 3000)
T35C #4831 : Eliska Junek 31th (1st sports cars, class 2000/ 2nd in ladies classification)

Michael Müller · **Posted:** Wed May 26, 2010 9:27 pm

bugatti69 wrote:

Uwe wrote:

New photos of Bugatti Trust Photo Archive:

Nürburgring 1927. Car 21 Elisabeth Junek. Chassis #4328 (4329?) > errors of Bugatti Trust

Nürburgring 17th July 1927. Car 21 Elisabeth Junek type 35C, 35T or type 35B
on the picture with compressor.

not 4328 > T35
not 4329 > T35
not 4815 > T35T
not 4572/4831 > T35

can be 4868 > T35B ex Targa Florio with #58 ?

Definitively #4831 as T35C. Although factory files list #4831 as unsupercharged T35 I have my doubts about this. The Juneks owned already #4572, a T35. Why substituting by another - technically identical - car? Junek already in September 1926 bought #4815, a supercharged T35B. In order not to compete in the same class Eliska's car was a 2 litre, but I am quite sure that they opted for the new supercharged version. It was usual that their cars had been ex works cars, which always had been a bit more power, and built with more care than the standard customer versions. The first T35C had been entered by the factory for the GP di Milano in September 1926, Costantini's car then had been sold to Aymo Maggi, but no sale reported for that of Goux. Therefore my believe is that it went to the Juneks as #4831.

Another possibility is that the engine was replaced in summer 1927 at Molsheim. At Praded on June 19 the car had an engine breakdown (if I remember correctly a broken conrod), and went by train to Molsheim for repair and general overhaul/service. Most probably it was directly delivered to the Nürburgring, as in a period magazine article Eliska reports that they drove to the Ring in the training car (= #4328).

Fact is that #4831 carried the some bodywork as its predecessor #4572, namely one of the special tourer bodies used by the factory T39 for the 1925 "GP l'ACF Touring". The T39 after that had been rebodied with standard GP coachwork for the Italian GP, and the surplus bodies used for customer cars. There are reports that Junek cheated the custom authorities by bringing #4572 to Molsheim "for repair", and returned with #4831 disguised as #4572. However, considering his wealthyness this sounds rather unlikely.

bugatti69 · **Posted:** Wed May 26, 2010 11:38 pm

4001 with N 469
4059 with N 469
4328 or 4329 ? with NV 433
4572 with NV 437
4815 with ?
4831 with N 498
4868 with ?

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bugatti69 · **Posted:** Thu May 27, 2010 7:20 am

Uwe wrote:

#4328 also NV 437

#4328 also NV 498

I do not believe that the 4328 changed three times of number de registration : NR 498, NV 433 and NV 437

The comments given to the photographs are can be inaccurate, or then it is not the good photograph. The errors on the books are possible.

These details are can be important to confirm the presence of such or such bugatti with each meeting.

4328 or 4329? It is not certain

4572 and 4831, or 4572/4831?

Many enigmas, not unquestionable answers

bugatti69 · **Posted:** Thu May 27, 2010 8:22 am

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