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 Post subject: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:55 am 
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I would like to have some clarification on the Bugatti Type 37 #37314-1. She was present at the exhibition Art of the Automobile in Monaco in June 2003 and its listing, it is presented as the Bugatti with which the Countess Margot Einsiedel has ran two months later it was sold at auction by Bonhams at the Nürburgring and it is presented again as ex-Countess Margot Einsiedel. I would like to know if this is not the car Countess Margot Einsiedel, which car is it?

J'aimerai avoir quelques précision sur la Bugatti Type 37 #37314-1. Elle fut présente à l'exposition Art de l'Automobile à Monaco en Juin 2003 et sur sa fiche de présentation, elle est présentée comme étant la Bugatti avec laquelle la Comtesse Margot Einsiedel a courrue, deux mois plus tard elle est vendue aux enchères par Bonhams au Nürburgring et elle est présentée là aussi comme étant ex-Comtesse Margot Einsiedel. Je voudrais savoir si ce n'est pas la voiture de la Comtesse Margot Einsiedel, laquelle est la voiture de celle-ci ??

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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:45 am 
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Races with #37314 :

- #22 Targa Florio 1928, 6 May, Countess Margot Einsiedel, 12th

- Coppa Etna 1928, 20 May, Countess Margot Einsiedel, Did Not Finish (Bearing trouble)

- #3 Premio Reale di Roma, Circuito Tre Fontana, 1928, 10 June, Countess Margot Einsiedel, Did Not Finish (Crash)

- Großer Preis von Deutschland 1928, 15 July, Countess Margot Einsiedel, Did Not Finish (Bearing trouble)

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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:30 pm 
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Where does your info come from that the von Einsiedel Targa Florio car is 37314 ?


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:52 pm 
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Information comes from Bonhams.

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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:58 pm 
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Lequel est le vrai 37314 avec le 211 C ? Celui de Frederica & Simon Kirkpatrick, Guernsey ou celui de Mulhouse (Schumpf)?

Which is truth 37314 with 211 C? That of Frederica & Simon Kirkpatrick, Guernsey or that of Mulhouse (Schumpf)?

http://www.bugattibuilder.com/wiki/inde ... le=37314-1

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http://www.bugattibuilder.com/wiki/inde ... le=37314-2


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:29 pm 
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How can it be that 37314 was delivered on April 4th 1928 to Omnia Munich and when Elizabeth Junek arrived at the 15th in Sicily for the Targa Florio, she wrote in a letter to her husband "Cenek" (read in her biography "My Life") that Huldreich Heusser and Margot von Einsiedel have already been in Sicily "for a long time"?


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:03 pm 
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Scuderia CC wrote:
Information comes from Bonhams.

From where does Bonhams have this Infomation?


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:19 pm 
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Not specified, I would have liked, me too, more reference... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
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There are 4 chassis Type 37 in Mulhouse

To see "500 Voitures de rêve" de Jacques Rousseau-Jean-Claude Delerm- Patrick Garnier:

- 37196-96 (code 0416)
- 37373-284 (code 0410)
- 37314 (code 0415)

- 37350-255 (2/1500) (code 0507) Type 51A


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:13 pm 
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thingfish wrote:
How can it be that 37314 was delivered on April 4th 1928 to Omnia Munich and when Elizabeth Junek arrived at the 15th in Sicily for the Targa Florio, she wrote in a letter to her husband "Cenek" (read in her biography "My Life") that Huldreich Heusser and Margot von Einsiedel have already been in Sicily "for a long time"?

You are right apparently, #37314 can it not have been.
The car of Margot Einsiedel with Targa Florio has Swiss a number 946-R.


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 of Countess Margot Einsiedel
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Uwe wrote:
The car of Margot Einsiedel with Targa Florio has Swiss a number 946-R.


Can you provide a picture with the plate or where does this info originate from ?


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