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| Author: | bugatti69 [ Mon May 11, 2009 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Type 30 of Jean Feray: 4532 or 4352 ? |
 4532 or 4352 ? to see: http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... title=4532 #56 at Centenaire Ettore Bugatti, Molsheim, 29th August-6th September 1981 with 4532 #30 at Grand Rallye International Bugatti Munster 1987 with 4532 #32 XVIII° Bugatti at Montlhéry, 9th March 2002, with 4532 registration : 532 AK 76 (F)  Rally of Dieppe in 1951 with Jean Féray (20 years) 
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| Author: | copperkettle [ Mon May 11, 2009 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Type 30 of Jean Feray: 4532 or 4352 ? |
Conway's 1973 "Bugantics" Register as well as Laugier's unpublished 1989 Register both say it is chassis no. 4532. CK |
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| Author: | Johan Buchner [ Mon May 11, 2009 11:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Type 30 of Jean Feray: 4532 or 4352 ? |
"Laugier's unpublished 1989 Register" This fabled manuscript is also mentioned in the Dutch Register. Why was it never published and how may I obtain a copy? It is, of course, easier to apologise than to ask permission, so perhaps someone can, completely by accident, of course, post the entire thing on the Forum and then Herman can keep it on just long enough to enable known troublemakers, such as my glorious self, to print it, before issuing an apology to all those owners fearing The Truth, and then move it to the deleted threads Forum. Simple yet elegant. I have a feeling such a post might create quite a bit of interest. I would gladly do the post myself, but I, unlike our esteemed comrade-in-arms Copperkettle, do not have a copy of Pierre-Yves Laugier's Holy Grail. I wonder if CK has my e-mail address? After all, what's the worst that can happen? Kind Regards Johan Buchner PS. The gentleman from Wales suggested a World Register for Bugatti. Surely the leaking of the Laugier Register will bring this brilliant idea just that bit closer to reality? |
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| Author: | GCL-Wales [ Tue May 12, 2009 12:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Type 30 of Jean Feray: 4532 or 4352 ? |
Pending the return of my type 30 from Duttons I've been putting some serious effort into a basic register of all "Pur Sang" Molsheim-built Bugattis completed in Ettore's lifetime : i.e. types 10 - 64. Entries are three or four lines long, giving dates of manufacture, invoicing and delivery, main owners, present location, etc. I will include the name of the cars' present owners if it is already in the public domain. So far I've completed entries for all type 10 to type 30 cars ie. chassis nos. 361-4736. I have included cars which are known to have been scrapped and cars which have a continuous history but might have been rebuilt or upgraded at Molsheim as a result of accident damage etc. I have not, however, listed cars of uncertain provenance where the present owner is unable or unwilling to prove the car's originality or cars based on new components. I will bring a few draft copies of the register to Molsheim in September (DV). |
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| Author: | Herman [ Tue May 12, 2009 7:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Type 30 of Jean Feray: 4532 or 4352 ? |
Ah, another register to verify the www.bugattiregister.com data. This suggests I should make an entry for more or less original cars, and for "butchered" cars. Let's see how I could do that. |
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| Author: | copperkettle [ Tue May 12, 2009 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Type 30 of Jean Feray: 4532 or 4352 ? |
Johan: It was never published because: A.) It was produced for a small group of Registrar's and B.) It really isn't a register...it is a listing of known Bugattis in France (in 1989) and their chassis numbers and owner's last names. For example: "x 4532...Feray" The "x" means in PYL's footnotes that he was 95% sure of the ownership in the name listed. I know Pierre would prefer the document remain confidential, so I will honor his wishes. If one has a specific question regarding a chassis number and whether it was in France around 1989, I am willing to confirm or deny this piece of intelligence, within reason. CK |
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| Author: | Johan Buchner [ Tue May 12, 2009 9:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Type 30 of Jean Feray: 4532 or 4352 ? |
Thanks for the feedback CK. If it is the author's wish that the contents of this document remain confidential, then so it shall be. Period. I really do not understand why (most? / some?) French Bugatti owners are so secretive. Pity really, I would have thought sharing one's treasures would add rather than detract from owning a Bugatti. Thank you to those who do share - it sure adds quality and texture to the Bugatti experience for non-owners. Kind Regards Johan |
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