Bugatti 35 B # 4878 was never a Bremme Car.
It is my car since 1975 it is the car of Graf Eckart von Kalnein.
who bought it in 1928.
Deliverd from the works in Molsheim to Omnia Munic.

The last 35 B Bremme bought in 1927 was 4842, which was sold 1928 to E.G.
Burggaller, when bremme retired from racing.
The bremme car with that courious German Body was a much earlier car on a Type 35 chassis.

The man who claimed # 4878 as Bremme car is a lousy "swindler"
and he knew that, when he used 4878 . He took that number, knowing that it never belonged to the car, which he bought in parts in Poland without motor and any number!!!
The curious Bremme Body made in Germany, he found appart somewhere else,
and put it on his car, using my chassis number and telling everybody this is now the famous Bremme car!!!

My car was build in April 1928 , at that time Bremme had already sold all his cars, as he retired from racing.

Don't like to communicate with people not ready to disclose their identity, even not in PM's. However, Mr. Teddy, let's start with a simple question - how many T35B (except his T43) did Graf Eckart von Kalnein own?

The fact that you claim ownership of "the real 4878" is not yet supported by any Bugatti Registrar or Historian in this world. I would recommend that you in order to be taken serious on this Forum and elsewhere, supply some nice pictures of the car in the condition it currently is and of course showing the proper numbers.
Bugwrench

H.G.Conway 2004: 4878 in Belgium

In the earlier edition the owner column was blank....

I have to admit that over years I also thought that #4878 was a Bremme car. I was wrong, which again confirms that "common knowledge" is nothing where a historian should rely on.

Short recap of the Bremme cars:
Emil replaced his Brescia in December 1924 by the T35 #4393 (registration IZ-61837). This was raced in 1925/26, and replaced in May 1927 by the T35B #4842 (registration IZ-95448). The old #4393 was converted to a coupé ("fast travel car"), photos have been posted here earlier:
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End of 1927 Bremme stopped racing, because he decided to concentrate more on the family business (large brewery). #4842 was sold in May 1930 to Ernst-Günther Burggaller.
In 1928 a new Bremme car appeared, again a T35B, bodied also as (sic) "fast travel car" by Bachmann. This car was registered IY-21166.
Exactly this registration caused me - and probably also others - to believe that the Bachmann roadster was a new car, probably #4878, as this car was delivered in April 1928 to Omnia (German importer).
Wrong.

The Bachmann roadster was still #4842, now retired from racing, and replacing the older "fast travel car" (coupé) #4392. The change of registration is proven, until 1928 all governmental districts of the Rhine Province (Cologne, Düsseldorf, Coblenz, Trier, Aachen) had the prefix "IZ". In 1928 the district Düsseldorf - to which the town of Barmen (today part of Wuppertal) belonged - was separated and received an own prefix "IY". All cars in Düsseldorf province required re-registration, and the old numbers had been re-used in other counties of the Rhine Province (#4842's registration IZ-95448 later was used in Altenkirchen county).

Only in 1930, when Bremme substituted #4842 by a new „fast travel car“, the T49 with Gläser body, it was sold – with the original GP bodywork – to E.G. Burggaller. The Bachmann body was obsolete now.

Only since there is (limited) access to the Molsheim delivery papers #4842 could be definitively confirmed for Bremme, and also #4878 now is proven to be delivered by Omnia to Eckhart Graf von Kalnein. Erwin Tragatsch reported that Kalnein owned one of the first T35B in Germany, therefore it was common believe his car was #4853, delivered in May 1927. Wrong, during all of 1927 Kalnein used only his T43 (#43151/152/153?). The first appearance of the T35B was at the Hainberg hillclimb on 6 May 1928, which fully corresponds with #4878’s delivery date 16 April 1928.

The postwar history of #4878 is known to me in major parts, however, I’m actually not authorized to disclose details. But as far as I can see there is no relation to the car claiming to be #4878.

and we wait still in the photos of Teddy and its #4878

I'm with Uwe on this one ; Teddy wrote :

"Bugatti 35 B # 4878 was never a Bremme Car.
It is my car since 1975 it is the car of Graf Eckart von Kalnein. (What? - No seriously, what???) who bought it in 1928.
Deliverd (sic) from the works in Molsheim to Omnia Munic (sic)."

Let me repeat this line : "It is my car"

In response to this assertion at least three prominent historians took the trouble to reply and all expressed grave doubts as to the validity of this claim.

Yet the "owner", called Teddy I believe, suddenly seem to have lost all interest in any further discussion. If I owned a Bugatti and someone provide compelling proof that my car is a fake I would not be silent. Teddy is silent. Strange man, this Teddy.

Yours
Johan Buchner
Port Elizabeth
South Africa.

Uwe, I have them. And a lot of other documents, incl. period import document from German customs authorities which confirms "teddy's" statement. For certain reasons neither "teddy" nor myself want to publish details on a public forum, at least not for the time being. Hope this will be accepted.

So actually let's concentrate on the historically proven facts:
- #4878 was delivered to Graf Kalnein (those who have access to the delivery files will be able to confirm this),
- Bremme's Bachmann roadster was #4842 (rebodied and re-registered)
- #4842 was sold by Bremme to E.G. Burggaller with the original GP bodywork

I accept it, to understand I can't do it

May be later....

#4842 ?

[photo again removes]

If you don't crop the photo - yes.

Who has the 1983 edition, and what does Conway say about "actual owner" for #4878?

Blank entry! In 1983 the car was not known to exist in any Bugatti Register in the world.
Bugwrench