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| Author: | Udolahr [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Spring Steel |
Who has a source for spring steel to build leave springs . My dealer is to expensive and has not all dimensions . |
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| Author: | Lazarus [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
Udolahr wrote: Who has a source for spring steel to build leave springs . My dealer is to expensive and has not all dimensions . Ets Chassin,ZAE,Les Ponts de Baillet,La Croix Vert,95560,Baillet en france,France.0033134699081.Talk to Christian,they supply all types of Bugatti and french car springs,also SSK mercedes. |
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| Author: | Udolahr [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
can you guess , how much for all 4 springs for a T37 ? |
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| Author: | Greg Morgan [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
If your prepared to wait a while and pay a little more - Gino Hoskins will provide you with a set of Grand Prix springs so good that you would hang them on the wall as a piece of art as much as fit them to a car. Unfortunatley though, they are British made... |
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| Author: | Lazarus [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
Greg Morgan wrote: If your prepared to wait a while and pay a little more - Gino Hoskins will provide you with a set of Grand Prix springs so good that you would hang them on the wall as a piece of art as much as fit them to a car. Unfortunatley though, they are British made... I do not know how old Udo is,but I doubt that even he could live long enough for Gino to make something.I have given Udo the address of Ets.Chassin near Paris.They made roadsprings for Bugatti in period and still do,and for one fifth the price of Gino. |
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| Author: | Udolahr [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
Thank you guys for the answers . But I do not realy look for ready made leave springs . I look for the material in 5 to 6 meter long rods . The guy who made the springs for the type 5 made a mistake . The springs are made from 50mmx6,4mm .The springs are getting a bow up , much to small . The original are made from 50x10 and 50x8 . So I like to make the springs and bring the car to the right level . Spring steel is very cheap carbon steel , nothing spezial, but nobody needs it . |
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| Author: | Herman [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
ODS in Barendrecht, Netherlands? Edit: checked their website, do not think they have something. However I found another in this area, asked them for more info. |
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| Author: | thingfish [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
Udolahr wrote: Who has a source for spring steel to build leave springs . My dealer is to expensive and has not all dimensions . http://www.gelbeseiten.de |
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| Author: | Herman [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
www.google.com Still it is nice if someone can recommend a company. I got a call from the company I contacted, they have 3mm in stock, but above they need to contact their supplier. The search continues... |
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| Author: | Lazarus [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
Udolahr wrote: Thank you guys for the answers . But I do not realy look for ready made leave springs . I look for the material in 5 to 6 meter long rods . The guy who made the springs for the type 5 made a mistake . The springs are made from 50mmx6,4mm .The springs are getting a bow up , much to small . The original are made from 50x10 and 50x8 . So I like to make the springs and bring the car to the right level . Spring steel is very cheap carbon steel , nothing spezial, but nobody needs it . Chassin will I am sure supply you with what you need,even spring steel. |
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| Author: | Bugwrench [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
Udolahr wrote: Spring steel is very cheap carbon steel , nothing spezial, but nobody needs it . This really is a joke. An "engineer" is teling us that? Bugwrench |
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| Author: | Herman [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
Steel for machining is low on carbon (0,03-0,25% C) Steel for general construction has a medium carbon content (0,15-0,4%) Spring steel usually has 0,4-1,2% C. Common are C75 and C100 (0,75 and 1% C resp.). This is cold rolled steel. However, thick spring steel (more than 3mm) is only common in 55 SI 7 and 65 SI 7 (Hot rolled), with 0,55 and 0,65% of C. There is also stainless spring steel, but I only found that in small thickness. The company Eriks (www.erxs.nl) has 8 and 10mm thickness in stock in various widths. |
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| Author: | Bugwrench [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
Herman wrote: Steel for machining is low on carbon (0,03-0,25% C) Steel for general construction has a medium carbon content (0,15-0,4%) Spring steel usually has 0,4-1,2% C. Common are C75 and C100 (0,75 and 1% C resp.). This is cold rolled steel. However, thick spring steel (more than 3mm) is only common in 55 SI 7 and 65 SI 7 (Hot rolled), with 0,55 and 0,65% of C. There is also stainless spring steel, but I only found that in small thickness. The company Eriks (http://www.erxs.nl) has 8 and 10mm thickness in stock in various widths. And you forget the 1.65% SI, 0.85% Mn and in some cases 0.5% Cr which does not make it ordinary carbon steel as claimed by the engineer. Bugwrench |
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| Author: | Udolahr [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:10 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel | ||
I do not know how many chemical analysis you made from original parts ? But for all parts we made for aircraft including leave springs I made one . Because in the end an aircraft inspector has to sign for and likes to see some papers . The only real differend is the carbon . If I buy a bigger amount like 1000kg and more , it is very much the same price like normal construction steel. So the differend can not be so big .
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| Author: | Greg Morgan [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spring Steel |
Oh no, here we go again... |
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