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 Post subject: Accident
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:25 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:32 pm 
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Do you have more info?

Quite some work to do on that car...

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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:21 pm 
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Is this the replica that was crashed, after which the chassis was sold as an original?

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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:30 pm 
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the front spring hanger is broken off , the " Original chassis " did not have this damage .


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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:05 pm 
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Correct Jaap

This is the 100 % original 21st century Pur Sang from Argentina driving with the number '4595' (Pur Sang gave it the identity BO 302). On this picture each and every part is from Anadon

After the accident the owner was hoping to qualify for the 'three out of five' rule by replacing some original Molsheim parts including a frame.

For me it remains a Pur Sang with some Molsheim parts

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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:16 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:53 pm 
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We're all very much preoccupied with originallity here, but: did the driver (and passenger?) survive?

And: What was the cause of the accident? Some of us would be happy if it would have been caused by failure of some PS parts...

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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:06 pm 
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driver did survive


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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:53 am 
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He was thrown out of the car and escaped remarkably- to everybody's surprise- without harm.

Otherwise the tone in my reply would have been different

As far as I know it was not a mechanical problem but he just drove too fast.


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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:34 am 
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how fast is to fast on a straight road ?
did not one of the allu wheels break?


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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:41 am 
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How odd, even though I know now that this is a modern replica I take no joy at its destruction. No matter how recently it was created I find it no less beautiful than an original T35. Less interesting, less valuable, less original for sure, but no less beautiful.

The originality debate shows no sign of abating. Long may it continue.

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Johan Buchner

PS. Udo the broken wheels may be as a result of the accident, not the cause.


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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:38 pm 
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If you buy one day a original part like for example a chassis with original papers , and later you find out that it is made in argentina , we talk again about it .
I got the info that one wheel did broke , the car did rollover and the other wheels did broke .


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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:48 pm 
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Time to check the wheels for pre-accidental cracks...

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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:25 pm 
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Herman wrote:
Time to check the wheels for pre-accidental cracks...

I would be looking very closely at these wheels.I have a damaged Bugatti wheel here which is very badly damaged after hitting a wall flat out.[ the driver died,the front axle was bent round almost 90 degrees until the wheel hit the side of the bonnet,but the chassis dumbirons did not break ] BUT it is still intact,very bent but not shattered like the wheels in the photograph.....It must be remembered however that this is a T51 wheel which was made stronger by the Bugatti factory so maybe the earlier wheels were a serious problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Accident
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:26 pm 
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If I were the owner of an argentinian car,I would be taking my wheels off now for crack testing......here is another photo.


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