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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:32 am 
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Michael Müller wrote:
By the way, anybody relying to the photo captions of the Bugatti Trust should tell them that they need to do their homework! They have so much wrong captions that it is really a shame...

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34 et 42 are different cars

Yes, of course!
But 37370 very probably is the von Kozmian car, and not that of Holuj.


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:37 pm 
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Michael Müller wrote:
Michael Müller wrote:
By the way, anybody relying to the photo captions of the Bugatti Trust should tell them that they need to do their homework! They have so much wrong captions that it is really a shame...

For that I am of your opinion

bugatti69 wrote:
34 et 42 are different cars

Yes, of course!
But 37370 very probably is the von Kozmian car, and not that of Holuj.

If the 37370 is the car of Kozmian,
you know the identification of the car of Holuj with KR-96757 (PL) ?


37281 from Vetterli is Holuj car, ex Franciszek Mycielski ?


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:09 pm 
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Hola, hola!

The basic question - how many T37s were in Poland before WW2 and where purchased cars (Polish agent or Paris Showroom or Munich)?

You say only about two or three Polish T37s.


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:44 pm 
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And how many Bugattis are today in Poland ? Are there any Bugattis ?


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:21 pm 
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Udolahr wrote:
And how many Bugattis are today in Poland ? Are there any Bugattis ?

There many unconfirmed legends about Polish Bugattis, but in my knowledge is one, mine T40, picture below
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Maciek Peda, Poland


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:59 pm 
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anjakub wrote:
The basic question - how many T37s were in Poland before WW2 and where purchased cars (Polish agent or Paris Showroom or Munich)?

Andrzej is right, history learns that not all Bugattis in a specific country had been officially imported directly by the agency as new. Some of them had been bought at the Bugatti showroom at Paris during a personal trip, and others second hand from other countries. And if we talk about Poland we have to consider that from 1930 on BUCAR in Switzerland was the exclusive agent also for Germany, Austria, and Eastern Europe.


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:07 pm 
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Until recently, in Poland were two Bugatti Veyron. I do not know if are still.


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:49 pm 
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Maciej_Peda wrote:
Udolahr wrote:
And how many Bugattis are today in Poland ? Are there any Bugattis ?

There many unconfirmed legends about Polish Bugattis, but in my knowledge is one, mine T40, picture below
Regards
Maciek Peda, Poland


see http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... own-PGS_7W


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:25 pm 
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Maciej ,I invited Jan a few times to come with his t40 to Molsheim . Maybe you like to come this year .


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:04 am 
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37281 from Vetterli is Holuj car, ex Franciszek Mycielski, yes or no ?

Thank you to confirm


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:59 am 
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Christian, what makes you believe that one of us does know?


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:30 pm 
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Thank you for this answer.
I understand that the precise details given by Uwe on the photographs of bugattibuilder are information which cannot be confirmed and which brings more confusion.
I consider it regrettable that this information is regarded as assertions and is put on Wiki

(translation in English by Internet)


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:39 pm 
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I only can say that I do NOT know.
If Uwe knows I'm sure he will share his source and/or argumentation with us.

Edit: just realized that the photos are archived as "37281?" which I believe is okay so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Pugatti PL
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:12 pm 
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Michael Müller wrote:
I only can say that I do NOT know.
If Uwe knows I'm sure he will share his source and/or argumentation with us.

Edit: just realized that the photos are archived as "37281?" which I believe is okay so far.



While waiting for a confirmation of Uwe, thank you for this precision.

http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... itle=37281


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