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Author:  buggerlugs [ Sun May 11, 2014 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
Good afternoon gents (and ladies?)

Hope you are all well. Just looking for a bit of expert info on some body panels that have come my way, which i am 80% certain are off a Bugatti.

I have a feeling they are from a Galibier-bodied Type 57, from what I know of the cars, and some reference to "Pur Sang"...

They are aluminium, or at least feel like it.

I have what appears to be all the bonnets panels, including louvered side bonnet panels, two rear wings, a bulkhead and two unknown panels, which going off the shape, may be some inner bonnet panels, though I'm sure one of the sages here will know for sure.

All information gratefully received. These will ultimately be up for sale, so without wishing to be crass, an idea of market value would be helpful, though doesn't need to be the primary piece of info just yet...

Many thanks, fellow "Bug-gers" :wink:

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Author:  buggerlugs [ Mon May 12, 2014 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
a few more pics

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Author:  buggerlugs [ Mon May 12, 2014 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
and finally.... these are the ones I am not sure about

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Author:  buggerlugs [ Wed May 14, 2014 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
Nobody out there able to assist on this?
Author:  Udolahr [ Wed May 14, 2014 1:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
I am not so sure about Bugatti . The fire wall looks not Bugatti like to me .
Author:  LAPORTE Eric [ Wed May 14, 2014 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
Hello!
Nice discovery!
I'm not expert in 57, but the fire-wall comes evidently from a 57, and the bonnet's elements too. The 2 others elements seems to be the 2 "bavolets" (in french) where bonnet's panels are locked, the opposites panels on right and left have the same curved edge.
I think the wings are for a 57, with the typical rear curved design you can find on Atalante, Atlantic, or others models, and maybe some Galibier .
The allow fire-wall seems old, but the bonnet's elements seem to have never been assembled. Perhaps they are a more recent making?
No idea about the value...
Best regards, E. LAPORTE.
Author:  buggerlugs [ Wed May 14, 2014 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
Vielen Dank Udo...

et merci pour votre information, Eric.

Maybe they are Type 57 then, as you seem to agree Eric. The rear wings have signs of being assembled at some point, and obviously the firewall/bulkhead has been used, and shows more signs of age and wear-and-tear.

The bonnet panels and the bavolets seem unused, or at least unassembled, though have holes drilled in for the rivets etc.

My dad used to have an Atalante, which makes me think they maybe are from that model, but looking at photos from various sources, they could also be Galibier, as they follow a similar curve. The bonnet louvres are slatted horizontally (as opposed to vertically) which I have only seen on the Galibier cars in the photos I have checked, so maybe a mixed batch?

Interesting stuff... Maybe I will also try the BUgatti Regsiter, see if anyone knows anything there.
Author:  copperkettle [ Thu May 15, 2014 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
Dear Buggerlugs:

Your pieces are definitely T57 in origin. I wondered if you could examine the back of the rounded corner of the louvered side panels...frequently, the original engine number of the car is stamped in this location. If from an Atalante, the Atalante body number (1-32) might also be stamped.

Please take a look and let me know!

Thanks,

Sandy
Author:  Udolahr [ Thu May 15, 2014 11:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
This must be a 57 fire wall

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Author:  LAPORTE Eric [ Fri May 16, 2014 11:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
Hello Udo!

It seems to me that your picture show the fire-wall of a 57S.
But for Buggerlugs, it's only a normal type 57... so perhap's a "Galibier"

Best regards, Eric.
Author:  Udolahr [ Sat May 17, 2014 12:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
My fire wall is from a 57S , I didn't know that the normal 57 is different .
Author:  LAPORTE Eric [ Sat May 17, 2014 7:09 am ]
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Hello, Udo

I've just discovered that after Buggerlugs' message... by watching my archive to give him an answer! We learn something every day on this forum! No?
Regards, Eric
Author:  buggerlugs [ Thu May 22, 2014 12:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
Thank you for your input and help, gentlemen,

I will have a look for some numbers on the rear wing when I am next at the lock up, and get back to you, Copperkettle.

Thanks for all the assistance.

Buggerlugs
Author:  LAPORTE Eric [ Thu May 22, 2014 2:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Type 57 panels? One for the sages...
Hello, Mr Buggerlug's!

You'll be a little disappointed, if you try to find numbers stamped in one of your rear wings!
Mr Copperkettle told you to look for these numbers on the internal side of the louvered
panel of the bonnet, near the curved edge (I think on the left side, near the firewall).
But you can also have a look anywhere around...
Good luck!
E.L.
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