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Author:  Herman [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Unknown car. Is this possibly a Bugatti?

Could this be a Bugatti?

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Author:  Herman [ Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:07 pm ]
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A small kick:

Can this be an updated version of a Bugatti type 9 (Deutz)

I compared this picture with a picture of a type 9:
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Chassis longerons are the same, front axle is same or similar, wheels are the same, steering wheel is same or very similar. Length could be the same.

Different are the mudguards (not difficult to remove, I suppose) but also the shape of the radiator and bonnet/hood.

Author:  Aravis [ Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Unknown car. Is this possibly a Bugatti?

Herman wrote:
Could this be a Bugatti?

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I don't think.
The bonnet is much higher.
I would need a detail of the front hub (or front wheel).
Is it a BENZ ?

Author:  Herman [ Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:58 am ]
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Right hand drive mercedes?

I will try and enlarge the two drivers. Perhaps someone recognises them.

But indeed the bonnet shape is different.

Author:  Aravis [ Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:49 pm ]
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Herman wrote:
Right hand drive mercedes?

I will try and enlarge the two drivers. Perhaps someone recognises them.

But indeed the bonnet shape is different.

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Not Daimler=Mercedes but Benz.
a model like this (1908) :
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1800- ... 80x960.jpg

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Ce sont toutes les deux des Benz de course 1908-1909.
- La forme du capot (avec pare-pierres ressemble à celles de photos ci-dessus. Le capot est d'ailleurs bien plus haut que celui de la Deutz.
- Le moyeu avec les caractéristiques petits cercles (à confirmer)
- le même pignon de la transmission à chaînes (peut se retrouver sur d'autres marques) et être changé (photo 2)
- le même système d'attache de la roue de secours

Sorry, I cannot write it in English :(
Could somebody translate? :wink:

Author:  rivaaquarama [ Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:22 pm ]
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Translated via http://babelfish.altavista.com

They are both of Benz of race 1908-1909.
- the shape of the cap (with stone guard resembles those of photographs above. The cap is besides much higher than that of Deutz.
- the hub with the characteristics small circles (to be confirmed)
- the same pinion of the transmission with chains (can find itself on other marks) and to be changed (photo 2)
- the same system of fastener of the spare wheel

Author:  Michael Müller [ Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:58 pm ]
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It's indeed a 12 litre Benz, driven by Victor Hemery at the Savannah Grand Prize (USA) 1908.

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Author:  Herman [ Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:21 am ]
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Thank you. Great picture, wrong car...

I have a clock and a larger plate with this picture on it. They were on sale at a local shop, and the price was such that it would be stupid not to take them.

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