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 Post subject: The ECCLES BROTHERS.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:41 am 
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ECCLES, Alexander Herbert Lindsay.

A member of a prominent South Wales steel-manufacturing company who was born in Briton Ferry, Neath, Glamorgan UK on 14th May, 1908. A pre-war driver who was a prominent in the Welsh steel industry. He raced mainly in the UK over seven seasons in a variety of cars especially Bugattis. His first was a type 35A which he used in 1931 but his first victory was in a type 37 (37344) in 1932 when he won a BARC Mountain Championship race. He then purchased an ex-Varzi works type 51 (51150). He drove it in the closing meeting at Donington Park in 1933 but was beaten by Lord Howe in another type 51. In March, 1934, he won a minor race at Brooklands and on 22nd July competed at Dieppe but rolled the car on the first lap of the first heat, without seriously injuring himself, and the car was rebuilt with an earlier chassis frame. Also in 1934, he took delivery of a type 57 chassis (57142 with engine no. 28 ) from Sorel’s London agency and had the car fitted with a 4-door saloon body by James Young. In August, 1934 he took delivery, (via Sorel’s London agency) of another type 51 (51156 with engine 23). He is however, perhaps best known as a driver of a type 59 (59122) at Brooklands and elsewhere. In 1935 he entered five races there but non-started in two. His faster lap in this year was 122.67 mph. All his cars were painted green and black and his racing cars were all looked after by Hubert Papworth in Fulham, London. He had them delivered to the venues where he competed, travelling himself in a 4.5 litre low-chassis Invicta and later, the type 57. His stable of racing Bugattis was sold to Jack Lemon Burton on July 14th 1938 for less than £2,000 (the type 59 accounted for £450 of the total payment). He died at Sketty, Swansea, Glamorgan, on 29th August, 1991. His step-daughter, Bunty, was Hamish Moffat’s second wife.

ECCLES, Roy.

Lindsay Eccles’s brother who raced a Frazer Nash, a MG Magnette, a Lagonda-based special and a type 37 Bugatti. He died unexpectedly at the beginning of 1938.

I AM ASSUMING THE TYPE 37 DRIVEN BY ROY WAS CAR 37344. CAN ANYONE CONFIRM THIS ?


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T37A GP (37344?),#2 II Nuffield Trophy 13 Jul 1935, Lindsay Eccles, DNF: http://www.bugattibuilder.com/wiki/inde ... itle=37344

T51 GP (51150 or 51156 ?),#12 Mannin Moar, 1933, July 14, Lindsay Eccles, Did Not Finish (Crash) : http://www.bugattibuilder.com/wiki/inde ... itle=51150
T51 GP (51150 or 51156 ?),#3 Mannin Moar, 1934, June 1, Lindsay Eccles, Did Not Finish (Rear axle)

T51 GP (51150 or 51156 ?),#27 VI Grand Prix de Dieppe, 1934, July 22, Lindsay Eccles, Did Not Finish (Crash)

T51A GP (51156),#10 Mountain Championship, Brooklands, 1934, October 13, Lindsay Eccles, 5th : http://www.bugattibuilder.com/wiki/inde ... itle=51156
T51A GP (51156), #14 VII Grand Prix de Dieppe Voiturettes, 1935, July 20, Lindsay Eccles, DNF

T57 Berline by James Young 1934 (57142) : http://www.bugattibuilder.com/wiki/inde ... itle=57142

T59 GP 1933 (59122),#8 VII Grand Prix de Dieppe 1935 , July 21, Lindsay Eccles, DNF : http://www.bugattibuilder.com/wiki/inde ... itle=59122
T59 GP 1933 (59122),#3 I Donnington Grand Prix 5 Oct 1935, Lindsay Eccles, 6th


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bugatti69 wrote:
T51 GP (51150 or 51156 ?),#27 VI Grand Prix de Dieppe, 1934, July 22, Lindsay Eccles, Did Not Finish (Crash)

T51A GP (51156),#10 Mountain Championship, Brooklands, 1934, October 13, Lindsay Eccles, 5th : http://www.bugattibuilder.com/wiki/inde ... itle=51156
T51A GP (51156), #14 VII Grand Prix de Dieppe Voiturettes, 1935, July 20, Lindsay Eccles, DNF

So one of the T51 was converted to T51A, is it sure that this was #51156? When has this done, and by whom? Molsheim?
I understand that #51156 was delivered through Sorel only in August 1934, after #51150 was crashed at Dieppe. At Dieppe 1935 it was for sure a T51A, but is Brooklands October 1934 confirmed also? Is it possible that #51156 was delivered already as T51A?

I also have a discrepancy about #51150. Conway gives January 1934 as delivery date, but it seems that the car was used already in October 1933 at Donington, or even at the 3rd Donington meeting on 19 Aug 1933 (Eccles won the 10 lap race for 3 litre u/s and 2.5 litre s/c cars). Can somebody give the correct delivery date / month?


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