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Mowing the lawn is done on Mondays, Wednesdays are for beating up foreigners who mess with Wiki. This applies only to Belgiun.

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Johan Buchner wrote:
Mowing the lawn is done on Mondays, Wednesdays are for beating up foreigners who mess with Wiki. This applies only to Belgiun.

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I finished five minutes ago the rear axle for Louise's T37.If I knew how to download photos i would do so ! I cannot think of a better looking rear axle on any other vintage car.One really wants to take it to bed with one.


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Johan Buchner wrote:
Mowing the lawn is done on Mondays, Wednesdays are for beating up foreigners who mess with Wiki. This applies only to Belgiun.

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I finished five minutes ago the rear axle for Louise's T37.If I knew how to download photos i would do so ! I cannot think of a better looking rear axle on any other vintage car.One really wants to take it to bed with one.


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See the instructional video on youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2e-ccw-FFA

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Sleeping with axles? You want I should judge?


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See the instructional video on youtube!

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you are joking n'est ce pas? i do not speak dutch sadly,with all those pretty dutch girls desparately looking for someone !


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It is a bit vague, but it shows the basic principle...

Click "upload photo" on the photo server, and let yourself drag into it...

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Herman loading photos on the photo-server is beyond my capabilities - posting photos on the forum, however, is easy. Life's funny that way .....


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I checked the numbers of my Registers. In both, on the inside of the cover page, from the top , Personal Property of Johan Buchner, Impression No 500(Vol.I) 700(Vol.II) 510(both). Like I said, just as if they were printed specially for me.

Just an observation, I now have the David Sewell British Register and the two Dutch Registers ; I prefer the Dutch works.

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In the Feedback Forum Jaap Horst wrote as follows : "Remember that a register (printed in 500 - 1000 copies) is a lot less "public" than the Internet. Add the searchability of the Internet to that, which enables anybody to search on a certain name and find out what cars he owns. I can imagine that there are many owners who do not want this. Wiki should respect that wish."

In one of the Dutch Registers there is an entry for a car with the owner's name and surname provided, together with this annotation : the owner wish to remain anonymous. Do I really have the right to publish this owners name on this Forum? This opens up a whole new can of worms, I am now privy to the information contained in the Registers, but these Registers, on the whole, are meant for owners. I would like to have debate about the whole rights versus responsibilities thing. And while I'm at it, perhaps some of the many contributors to the Dutch and Belgian Registers can give some feedback as to what constitutes improper use of the information I now have access to. I am very much aware that I only got onto the waiting list for the Registers by special dispensation - the idea all along was only owners of Vol.I (And not the stolen ones either) would be allowed to purchase Vol.II.

Please do not be fooled by my apparent deep respect for the authors and publishers, I assure you my interests are purely self serving. The most prolific and respected Bugatti authors and historians all contributed to the Dutch Registers - I piss them off, they might refuse me access to their future works, and then what? I will be utterly screwed, that's what. So I am anxious to play the game by their rules. Just tell me what those rules are, please.

In conclusion, Jaap also wrote : "I did a search on my own name the other day (try it) and was surprised what I found! A few listings were present which I never thought that would be there."

A bit of advise Jaap, only give your real name when joining motoring related sites; for porn sites use a non-de-plume. It works for me.

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Johan Buchner wrote:
In the Feedback Forum Jaap Horst wrote as follows : "Remember that a register (printed in 500 - 1000 copies) is a lot less "public" than the Internet. Add the searchability of the Internet to that, which enables anybody to search on a certain name and find out what cars he owns. I can imagine that there are many owners who do not want this. Wiki should respect that wish."

For the register, I am legally not in the need to disguise anything. However, if someone asks in a friendly manner, I am more then willing to change a name to initials.
If one starts to randomly delete entries, starts to bother people, and to refuse talking to me, it might be different.

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In one of the Dutch Registers there is an entry for a car with the owner's name and surname provided, together with this annotation : the owner wish to remain anonymous. Do I really have the right to publish this owners name on this Forum?

No, this forum can be read without logging in. I fear it is an error in the book. Stating: "I am Herman Brouwer, I want to stay anonymous" sounds a bit stupid.


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In conclusion, Jaap also wrote : "I did a search on my own name the other day (try it) and was surprised what I found! A few listings were present which I never thought that would be there."

A bit of advise Jaap, only give your real name when joining motoring related sites; for porn sites use a non-de-plume. It works for me.

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Johan Buchner wrote:
In conclusion, Jaap also wrote : "I did a search on my own name the other day (try it) and was surprised what I found! A few listings were present which I never thought that would be there."

A bit of advise Jaap, only give your real name when joining motoring related sites; for porn sites use a non-de-plume. It works for me.

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Johan,

You're just the guy from whom I would expect such an advise.

But, you can do the search and find out who I am (outside the Bugatti world)

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Same for me, you can find out I am a real good dancer, an expert on rotary engines (Mazda RX8), an athletic, and more like that. I guess I have a common name...

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 Post subject: Re: Volume II Dutch / Belgiun Bugatti register
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Dear All

This is in reply to some remarks on the Forum. First of all thanks for all the compliments. But this is not just the work of us authors; it is the result of the input of many people. Many owners who were at first hesitant to give information came forward; in Vol II mainly Belgian Bugatti owners. However a number of them value their privacy, which we have respected. As you can see in the 1962 Register and in the 2003 American Register names and addresses were given; we have deliberately not done this. In addition there is the BIG (Bugatti Identification Group) to which all pages were sent for scrutiny before publication.

Interestingly when we published Vol I in 2005 many people were very wary and had to be persuaded to have their car described. Now it is almost the opposite: people ask why their car is not in there!! (but these will then come in Vol III)

One of the reasons to publish the Registers is to describe authentic Molsheim cars but also the Butti, Jones etc replica's- that some owners have tried to sell as genuine with accompanying impressive provenance (such as recently the Lalanne '43202' which is a complete Pur Sang on a genuine type 38 frame)- and also everything in between.

The problem of the Wiki is that anyone can change it at any time, and especially in the beginning many replica's were presented as genuine. It is mainly to the credit of Christian Anicet that the Wiki has grown to what it is now (and of course Herman to make it possible).

As a number of Belgian owners who had contributed wanted the books but also Vol I (which was sold out) I had a limited number of extra Vol I's reprinted. It is not a commercial enterprise. The books are sold so that our cost will be covered and so that we will have enough to invest in Vol III. They are not meant for the trade but for sharing of information, so it is one copy per person. The interest far exceeded my expectations. We could sell all books within three months if we would wish. However I have to do this next to a full time job, so I take it easy. At first the books will be offered to members of the Bugatti Club Nederland and owners of Vol I with matching numbers, then to members of all other Bugatti Clubs and after that to the general public until they are sold out. I have already a long list of prospective buyers. For those of this forum and visitors who want to buy a copy of Vol I and Vol II please mail me (keesj@rdgg.nl). I will reserve a copy for you

I need your name, full address, telephone and mobile phone number. You will receive a personalized book. You can only buy one copy of each Volume. I had already people who wanted to buy up to 10 books at a time but I fail to see how they could benefit (other than commercially) from ten times the same information.

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 Post subject: Re: Volume II Dutch / Belgiun Bugatti register
PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:25 am 
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I have 2 books (vol 1 and vol 2) and I am extremely happy with it. Thank you, Kees, for your kind words and for making your work available.

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