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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:58 am 
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51122 is ex #4962 :?:
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 Post subject: Re: 51122
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:48 pm 
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http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... title=4962

Written by "bugatti69":

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Type 35 Grand Prix modified in Type 51 Grand Prix # 51133


http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... itle=51122

Written by "bugatti69":

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Type 51 Grand Prix (ex Type 35B #4962)


1 + 2 + 3 = 7

1 = Varzi owned 51122
2 = Varzi's car at Alessandria had registration 7698-NV
3 = 7698-NV was the registration of #4962
7 = conclusion


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 Post subject: Re: 51122
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:17 am 
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51122 http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... itle=51122
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Type 51 Grand Prix (ex Type 35B #4962)

51133 http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... itle=51133
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Type 51 Grand Prix (ex Type 35 C 4962)


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 Post subject: Re: 51122
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:15 pm 
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51122 or 51133 > ex 4962 ?

Conway > 51133 ex 4962

Uwe > 51122 ex 4962


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 Post subject: Re: 51122
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:56 pm 
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bugatti69 wrote:
Uwe > 51122 ex 4962

No, he only posted the discrepancy!
YOU inserted in the file 51122 on 5 June 2010:
"Type 51 Grand Prix ex 4962"
And also YOU inserted in the file 51133 on 7 March 2009:
"Type 51 Grand Prix (ex Type 35 C 4962) "


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 Post subject: Re: 51122
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:32 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 51122
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:49 pm 
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Thank you in Uwe and Michael Müller to have announced errors on wiki. (Bad information)

updates Wiki:

4962 : http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... title=4962
51133 : http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... itle=51133
T51 unknown-7698 NV : http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... wn-7698_NV
51122 : http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... itle=51122


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 Post subject: Re: 51122
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:27 pm 
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http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... wn-7698_NV

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not Alessandria in 1931

Of course the photos are from Alessandria 1931!

The T35C #4962 was a 1930 workscar, registration 7698-NV.
The T51 engine #6 was installed, but the car didn't change identity, it still had serial #4962 and registration 7698-NV. It was painted red and used by Varzi under private entry at Tunis and Alessandria.
Varzi did NOT use this car at Monaco, where he raced a blue works car, most probably #51122 (3276-NV1).
Only later - may be in May or June - #4962 changed officially identity to #51133, and was re-registered 4800-NV-1 on 7.7.1931. Probably used as spare car, and given to Chiron at the end of the season.

Stop thinking black-white only! In 1931 Varzi raced at least 4 different T51, plus the ones he shared with Chiron for the 10 hour races!


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 Post subject: Re: 51122
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:17 pm 
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Michael Müller wrote:
http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... wn-7698_NV

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not Alessandria in 1931

Of course the photos are from Alessandria 1931!

The T35C #4962 was a 1930 workscar, registration 7698-NV.
The T51 engine #6 was installed, but the car didn't change identity, it still had serial #4962 and registration 7698-NV. It was painted red and used by Varzi under private entry at Tunis and Alessandria.
Varzi did NOT use this car at Monaco, where he raced a blue works car, most probably #51122 (3276-NV1).
Only later - may be in May or June - #4962 changed officially identity to #51133, and was re-registered 4800-NV-1 on 7.7.1931. Probably used as spare car, and given to Chiron at the end of the season.

Stop thinking black-white only! In 1931 Varzi raced at least 4 different T51, plus the ones he shared with Chiron for the 10 hour races!


Michael, just a minor point: 4962 was not a 35C but a 35B before being rebuilt into 51133.
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 Post subject: Re: 51122
PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:04 am 
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What is your source?
Understand 4962 was one of the 3 works cars for the 1930 GP Belgium, all of which had been T35C.


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