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 Post subject: 4516 or 4830 ?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:48 pm 
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4516 or 4830: Can you confirm?

4516 > Type 35, year 1925 (agent: Karrer, Zurich (CH)) :
- #9 Targa Florio, 3rd May 1925, Pierre de Viscaya (Automobiles Ettore Bugatti, work car) 4th
- #93 Klausenrennen 1925, Mario Lepori with 6999B (CH), Cannot be 4830 (type 35B of 1927)

4830 > Type 35B 1927
- #6 Grand Prix de Monaco, 1929, Dauvergne (CH) with 6999B (CH) (Type 35(C?)
- Premio Reale di Roma 1928, Mario Lepori with 6999B (CH) (Type 35B)

'4516 or 4830' ?: with 6999B (CH) of Christoph Ringier (CH) (Type 35)


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 Post subject: Re: 4516 or 4830 ?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:20 pm 
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4516 was exchanged by Lepori against 4830. There are some signs that 4830 was returned by Molsheim to Switzerland with the identity of "4516 overhauled" in order to save import duties.

4830 was NEVER a T35B. It was a T35 sold in March 1927 and reportedly later was equipped with a supercharger and large brakes at Molsheim. But chassis and engine number fit more into the timeline of autumn 1926. It would be rather interesting to see some photos of 4830 from 1927, as I cannot exclude that the car was originally delivered already as T35C with supercharged and larges brakes.


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 Post subject: Re: 4516 or 4830 ?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:53 pm 
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#6 Grand Prix de Monaco, 1929, Dauvergne (CH), Type 35(C?) or 35B : 4830

#30 Grand Prix de Monaco, 1929, Lepori (CH) with 7066 B (CH) : 4913


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 Post subject: Re: 4516 or 4830 ?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:18 pm 
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H.G.Conway:
4516 in Switzerland (previously listed as 4830)


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 Post subject: Re: 4516 or 4830 ?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:39 pm 
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Of course 4830 in 1929 had a supercharger, as well as in 1928 (see photo taken at Rome). Question is for 1927.


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 Post subject: Re: 4516 or 4830 ?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:08 pm 
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Anybody able and ready to supply the Monaco photo above without notes and in good resolution?
Thanks in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: 4516 or 4830 ?
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 Post subject: Re: 4516 or 4830 ?
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