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| Author: | bietbert [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Replicas from the Czech Republik |
Last sunday a Pur Sang driver showed me some photographs of a workshop in the Czech Republik, with at least 10 nearly finished grand prix chassis and an incredible batch of body- and chassisparts for the cars including cast iron frontaxles. Something to commit suicide.  Does anybody know more about it??? bietbert |
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| Author: | Udolahr [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik |
I love cast iron front axles  But all cars today have cast iron krankshafts with 120 kg to the mm 
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| Author: | Marek [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik |
Hallo, subject front axle comes back last time. So I would like to ask do you know the diameters for T35. I mean the cut, distance between pivots, distance between heart screws and depth of bending. Maybe sombody has got the technical drawings of it. It will be nice to see and know it. Bye, bye Marek Jerzy |
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| Author: | Marek [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:39 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik | ||
To systematize: Bugatti T 43 approux 1180 mm kingpin centus, 610 mm spring pad centres Bugatti T46 Approux 1310 mm kingpin centus, 700 mm spring pad centres Marek Jerzy
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| Author: | Udolahr [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik |
Did Bugatti build his axels from 2 parts ? This are castings , did he cast his axels ? Do you weld this 2 parts in the middle ? What kind of steel is it ? GGG ? |
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| Author: | rivaaquarama [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik |
Marek wrote: To systematize: Bugatti T 43 approux 1180 mm kingpin centus, 610 mm spring pad centres Bugatti T46 Approux 1310 mm kingpin centus, 700 mm spring pad centres Marek Jerzy Dear Marek, Can we conclude that you are involved in the replica building of the cars in the Czech Republik? Regards, Martijn |
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| Author: | Marek [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:33 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik | ||
Hallo, this picture showed the oryginal axel Bugatti T59. In T54 and T59 axel front was united with two symetric parts, but it wasn't weld for sure. In those days it was very popular that axel in GP cars (Sunbeam, Delage, Talbot) was consist with few parts, probobly the reason was to make easier the production technology. In oldest models of Bugatti this axel was made in one part. The photo below showed it the best. I think that hydraulic press is more usefull than welder. About the quality of steel, this problem was propoled in forum before, it was named as MH2, today it is 35HGS. I mentioned those diameters of T43 and T46 because I see the relationships of proportions. I would like to know the exact diameters of axel front of T35 (technical drawings), perhaps somebody have got it and could throw it open. I think that it's not very difficult to reproduce this axel but it's nessesery to have the exact diameters and art spirit  . I'm not involved to the project in Czech Republic but I'm interested in any projects of buildings Bugatti replicas. I know that it's work for years, for now I colect all information.Look how easy is the axel of T73C. Regards Marek Jerzy
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| Author: | Udolahr [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik |
hollow axel 43mm , solid 37mm. |
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| Author: | Udolahr [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik |
He must be busy building axels 
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| Author: | Marek [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:43 pm ] | |||
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Is there somebody who has got any expiriences about building axel front for T35/T37?
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| Author: | Marek [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:18 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik | ||
I need drawings and dimensions those shields to T35/T37. Have you got any? Could you share?
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| Author: | Greg Morgan [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik |
Why not just contact the Bugatti Trust for the drawings? Ivan Dutton ltd are making hollow forged gp front axles again now |
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| Author: | Udolahr [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik |
How can you forge a hollow axel ? |
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| Author: | Marek [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik |
Hallo Greg! I know the address of Bugatti Trust. That what I'm asking it's just small detal which I lost. I thought that somebody can help me, I undersdend that just not you. Has Ivan Dutton Ltd got the monopol for the axel front? Are there people who build themselfs? It would be nice to know them. I think that exchange of expiriences would be interesting. It is olso part of Bugatti idea. |
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| Author: | Herman [ Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Replicas from the Czech Republik |
Udolahr wrote: How can you forge a hollow axel ? There is a Bugatti patent describing the process. It is in many books. Basicly start with a hollow casting, then forge the ends shut. |
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