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 Post subject: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:26 pm 
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Types 35 and 37 by Alois Samohýl (CZ) :

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See :

http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... lica-Samohýl

and http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/ind ... 35/R_Samohýl


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:19 pm 
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Type 37 by Alois Samohýl (CZ) :

http://auto.idnes.cz/video-podivejte-se ... jetiny_fdv


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
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Beautiful images :D


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:56 am 
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now it is becoming an embarrassment to have a 35 or 37. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
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Udolahr wrote:
now it is becoming an embarrassment to have a 35 or 37. :(

Does anyone have an address for these people in CZ ? I cannot read the link :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
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Lazarus wrote:
Udolahr wrote:
now it is becoming an embarrassment to have a 35 or 37. :(

Does anyone have an address for these people in CZ ? I cannot read the link :oops:


Internet see: "Samohýl"


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:31 am 
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bugatti69 wrote:
Types 35 and 37 by Alois Samohýl (CZ) :

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Old front axle?

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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:48 am 
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Udolahr wrote:
now it is becoming an embarrassment to have a 35 or 37. :(


I think that everybody should have at least one T35 and/or a T37. :)

What is embarrassing if they are well made and correctly labeled?
It's up to the owner to be honest.
And it's made in Europe, just in front of our house door so no one can complain about "bad" quality from south America. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:45 am 
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What is their plan to get these cars road-registered?

Do they have a shoe-box full of old "cartes grises".

As far as I can tell, these series (do I see 15?) produced cars do not comply at all with EU regulations. Does anybody have info about this?

And of course: I do hope that each car comes with it's own CZ-number stamped clearly in each major part, so that nobody can patinate one and sell as original.

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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:28 pm 
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we have a Bugatti mass production from south america , now we get one form CZ .You guys realy want this ? Most Bugattis at the Molsheim Festival are from Argentina and the main question was , Argentina or original . In the future it will be , Argentina or CZ .And about quality from CZ , it will be the same like Argentina .


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
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How do you know?

About originality: It is up to the Bugatti community to make arrangements for that. I guess that at least 50% of the so called "original" Grand Prix Bugattis also have a fair amount of non-molsheim products in their cars. And I am not counting plugs, tyres, brakes or even wire looms.

The http://www.bugattiregister.com is a good start for sifting. The good know, and judging from the friendly comments in my mailbox, the bad know as well.

Having an unlimited faith in the honesty of people I think that 90% of the "scams" and "frauds" are just to get things road registered. Probably the only way to get around this is to work and lobby the EU government for creating a loophole. I have no contacts there, but perhaps Ard op de Weegh has?

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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:35 pm 
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Udolahr wrote:
we have a Bugatti mass production from south america , now we get one form CZ .You guys realy want this ? Most Bugattis at the Molsheim Festival are from Argentina and the main question was , Argentina or original . In the future it will be , Argentina or CZ .And about quality from CZ , it will be the same like Argentina .


Hello Udo,

I don't agree with your statement that most Bugattis at the Molsheim Meeting are replicas.
Most T35, T37, T43 and T51 at the meeting are replicas and there is the main problem that a lot of people believe that Bugatti only built race cars where it was only one part of his products.
Actually the whole perception gets shifted by the excessive mass of replicas but on the other hand I think that people that don't know more about the Bugatti production are well enough served with such replicas.
Now what would you prefer, having some replica race cars at the Bugatti meeting or having no Bugatti race cars at all over there and most probably no Bugatti festival too.
Is a replica Type 5 or a replica Royale any better??

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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:01 am 
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2010 , most Bugattis at the Meeting in Molsheim are replicas . I did send a friend to all the Bugatti owners to ask if the car is original or a replica . And all did say it is original . Some of the cars are well known to be from argentina , but if a not bugatti person is asking it is a original .
To have one or two Type 5 replicas is OK , because there is no original . To build a Royale if there is no original is OK , just the story about the original chassis is a little strange .
If I ask people with original Bugattis to come to Molsheim , I think you know the answers .


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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:45 am 
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I think the people with original cars should not be so difficult. It it their duty to organise and protect their heritage. create a board of experts, who can issue certificates, detailing what is original and what is not.

Again, the board of Bugatti experts should organise with other brand related or classic car related organisations, and appeal at the EU for regulations to get replicas road registered. "Originals" should face the fact that replicas are being made, there is nothing they can do to stop it. What they can do is organise and arrange, instead of playing the victim or the beaten dog.

I'd almost pick it up myself.

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 Post subject: Re: Type 37 Replica built in (CZ)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:24 pm 
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All these 37's look like 35's ie they have a long bonnet and 35 bulkheads one shot has 8 cylinder engine castings offerd up. does anyone actually know what they are building?

Have they compleated a car yet? looking on the web they seem a very serious outfit but none of the cars shown are very far along did they do a prototype?


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