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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:09 am 
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The picture was posted on the previous page!

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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:05 pm 
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I think this picture is a fake .The chipps are not made with this machine .


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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:14 pm 
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Udolahr wrote:
I think this picture is a fake .The chipps are not made with this machine .

swarf not chips or chipps ! The swarf looks perfectly correct to me for rough turning a crankshaft.


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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:09 pm 
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How many crankshafts did you make , with 20mm wide swarf ?


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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:26 pm 
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This booklet has several drawings of the molsheim workshop and its machines
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it title: Ettore Bugatti, Fabrique d'Automobiles à Molsheim

More info on Jeroen's site (about halfway down this page)
http://www.octagonfox.com/biblio.html

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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:51 pm 
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can you post some examples from the book ?


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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:06 pm 
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There are drawings of
- the foundry
- the workshop with several belt driven big lathe's
- the workshop with several belt driven small big lathe's
- the workshop with several belt driven routers
- a belt driven machine I think for reaming the crankshaft guides
- a machine for reaming 4 cilinders at once, using a special Bugatti tool
- the workshop with grinding tools
- a machine which prupose is not clear to me
- quality control tools and intrumenst for making small corrections /adjustments
- workshop with benchworkers and assembly
- engine stand for engine assembly
- measuring table with tools
- blacksmith's shop : belt and muscle driven
- ovens for heat treatment and tempering
- workshop for project preparation
- engine testing bench
- drawing office

most drawings are dated 1922
the booklet is in French

Ther is no copyright stated so I think I could post some examples but maybe you could consider buying your own copy, now you know what is inside:
Jeroen / Octagon fox has a copy for sale right now

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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:05 pm 
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" Bugatti had some wonderful machines " !
Can anybody explain me this wunderfull machines ? I have 2 con rods in front of me . From a Brescia and a 37 , the machining quality is very low . Is there any real info about his machines ?


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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:39 pm 
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who knows this magic machine ?


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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:37 pm 
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It looks like a hand made tool to make splines into a milled part.
It's more a homebuild conversion to do the job


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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:35 pm 
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a dangerous tool made to be even more dangerous....
if any government safety inspector is looking you better hide thismachine cause he is coming to check your workshop very soon...

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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:41 pm 
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Good lord... and do you Germans rub sticks together to make fire?
No wonder all the best repro Bugatti bits come from England. etc. etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:32 am 
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Greg , you will like this .
It is a Kerry lathe made in England . As a lathe not realy very magic , I think this is the reason the company is closed today . The conversion is made in Germany , but I did coppy a machine from a company in England . Somebody made the same conversion at South Cerney Engineering years ago . I think the company name today is Ashton Keynes .For the job the machine is doing , the machine is OK and easy to handle.
But it looks like nobody can see for what the machine is converted .


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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:59 am 
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Welcome to planet Earth, Udo. So where are you from then?

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 Post subject: Re: Machines
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:18 am 
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The age of machines does not tell anything about quality, or perhaps it does: The best chisels I have are really, really old, and actually are French (Peugeot)

About the mechanism: does it move the whole tool holder, or does it turn the tool holder?

Machining is all about tools, regular and special, to do a specific job. Most of the time it takes 2 hours to set up, to do a 2 minute machining job.

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