You're right Johan, there seems to be some details wrong!

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I checked with the US distributor, minichampsna.com today. They said they are receiving production T41s now and to expect them at the local dealers next week. They didn't have any pictures of the production version, and I haven't found any on line. If anyone sees some, I hope they will post it. I wonder if they fixed the remaining problems, especially the pattern on the inside upholstery. Not that that would stop me from buying one.

Ray-- new member
Collecting mostly the newer CMC models

I have not heard of the models arriving at the Dutch modelshops yet. Let's wait and see.

And welcome, Ray!

ps, acutally the Porsche 901 by CMC is modelled after a Porsche owned by one of my friends (Arthur Smid). It was him that arranged my first Bugatti model. (Pocher T50 Surprofile)

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A member at our forum DiecastXchange has just acquired this model. Now whilst I know the Royale was massive, was the entire height of the T35 from ground to radiator cap only as big as the T41 radiator ???
This is compared here to the CMC T35.
Surely this car is out in scale somewhere??





Pics courtesy of Enzo288@diecastxchange.com

Much obliged
Bug

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Bugattitude how good to hear from you again! I think you are right, there does seem to be something out of kilter here, but I can't quite put my finger on it. At home I have the 1/24th Italeri Coupe Napoleon and the Monogram 1/24th T35 and while the T41 is bigger, the difference in height, especially at the front, doesn't seem to be that much. Herewith the wheelbase and track measurements of both :

T41 / w - 4.3m / t - 1.6m.
T35 / w - 2.4m / t - 1.2m.

Unfortunately I have no measurements for their respective heights.

Regards
Johan

Johan, sorry my man, been hectic and just no time for Bugs at the mo.
Thanks so much for your input. I'd really not like to see a scale messup on either of these two exquisites !!
I'll do a little more research and get back to you.
Trust you're having good weather at the coast. Been a tad stifling here.
Praat weer.
Groetnis

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I measured the wheel bases of the t41 and the t35 models off the screen picture, then 6.5/11.5=.565, and the known wheel bases 2.4/4.3=.558, so the ratios are very close, especially for not being able to get an accurate measurement off the picture.

And remember, the Royale is the largest car make, and the t35 is tiny. And this Royale is the prototype which was even larger than the production models. I have never seen the wheel base published for the final chassis used on the prototype version, either. Plus, both models are self consistent in size, so the worst that could be is that it is 1/16 instead of 1/18. Big deal!

What bothers me more, if this is a production model, is that the interior upholstery does not have the correct pattern, but I will still buy it.

Ray C

Welcome to Bb, Ray.
Unfortunately the scale is rather of importance to those of us who collect multple scale models. An out of scale model can stick out like a wart.
Already in my Bugatti colleco of 13 (supposedly 1:18) ,I am sitting in three scales between 1:16.5 and 1:20. This is extremely frustrating even more so for building of dioramas, being my passion, as here the difference in scale is so noticeable. Darn, I don't even place a hammer that's out of scale, let alone the biggest sedan cars ever built.
I am aware that 71100, throughout its five body changes, was the biggest of the T41's but I'm still not convinced that the front of this Royale is 1:18 compared to the T35, which I was instrumental in having made and to boot purposefully selected CMC as the caster to ensure correct scale.

Jaap or Herman, can you see what I'm getting at ? I cannot believe that the radiator on a T41 was larger than a T35 from ground to radiator cap ??
Are there no archived pics of these two together as 1:1?? I've regretably been unabale to find any.
Groete, Bug

Both the 41 and 35 made in AutoCad and placed on top of each other..

Jaap it almost seems as if the panels from step plate to window height are too wide ??

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Brilliant, rivaaquarama. Any way of doing those head on ?? Much obliged.

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Groetnis, I am certainly in your debt for your part in bringing us the CMC T35. It is my favorite model. We need all the high quality models we can get! It will be interesting to learn what the experts here decide about this model.

Ray C

Type 37 next to Type 41.. Picture taken by Jan Cohen

I think I've spotted part of the problem ; the radiator on the T41 is mounted too high (and too far forward?) in relation to the chassis. And, so it would seem, the wings are too high in relation to the top of the tyres. Mind you, talk is cheap, perhaps those contributors who've spent their own money getting this T41 can tell us how they rate it?

Heco got the Royale's proportions spot-on in 1/43rd scale, is doing the same in 1/18th easier or harder?

Kind Regards
Johan.

PS. Ray that brocade interior you referred to, currently fitted to the Coupe Napoleon is not the original, it was added by the Shlumpf brothers, as was the two-tone paint. It was originally all black. They also added those carriage door handles. I am not sure why they felt the need to do this.