Have you seen Tom Perkins latest pursuit- The "Maltese Falcon" sailing ship. quite a piece of work. If you have'nt then type it in to your browser and you will see what I mean.

Greg

What I understand is that the Maltese Falcon is actually for sale also, including the Type 35 sculpture.

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Glorious indeed! Must have cost a fortune to build though - ain't money GREAT? While it's true there is nothing (much) wrong with being poor, let's face it, it's not exactly an honour either ......

Johan

Or have a look at this post....


http://www.bugattibuilder.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=136

Very nice Martijn, very nice indeed. I would still rather have his collection of Bugattis than the yacht, but that's just me.

Johan.

PS. Has anyone managed to find out any more about 50133/144 during the time it was owned by the Giles brothers? Did Eric Giles in his Bugantics series "Bugattis I have owned" ever mention chassis numbers?

From Bugangtics Vol 7 nr 1 page 24.....

Add in "the Motor" July 18 1939

Chassis numbers were rarely mentioned in "Bugantics" until around the late fifties.

The Motorsport advertisement from 1939 lists both the bodies as being by Corsica. CGL-Wales is correct, chassis numbers are not mentioned in the G.M Giles' Bugantics article. (neither is this car by the way) Did this car go from Burton to George Rand and then to Garthwaite? When and why was it stored at Zumbach's as chassis only?

Another thing that bothers me, very few T50s were sold new to Britain and I don't think (I could be wrong) Giles bought this as a new car. Was the present coachwork the first body on this car? Was the first owner British? Was Burton correct about Corsica doing both bodies?

It is of course very easy to be wise after the fact but as Sandy points out there was mention of 50144 before 50133. The engine and coachwork is said to be ex-50144. And though it pains me to say this, even Conway made mistakes.

Last thought, if a foreign car was imported into the United States, how complete would the customs records be? Can this document still be found in custom's archives? Or an export document in Britain perhaps?

Kind Regards
Johan Buchner

Dear All:

I am informed by a reliable source that the Williamson T50 will be at Monterey next weekend in the RM tent and available for purchase in the "Private Sale Salon". I have stated my "50144" case to all involved...we'll have to see how it all shakes out!

Cheers,

Sandy

Dear All

It is not even that long ago that the main source of identification was the chassisplate on the car. Even Hugh Conway sr did this, for instance, with the plate for chassis 441263 which he had seen on Johan van Nimwegen sr's car during a meeting. The car had stampings 11823 on the engine where normally the chassisnumber was located (this was Johan's birthdate, but Hugh realised that that could not be the chassisnumber although it is still registered as such in the RDW- the Dutch DMV). His car had nothing to do with this number, but for many years the car was known as 441263 at the Trust until Johan wrote a letter correcting this. See NLB-1 p 130 and NLB-2 p LX.

I guess this car was known as 50133 as it carries the chassisplate of that car. I also think Sandy was the first to realize that there may have been a switch.

A couple of months before his death we visited Peter Williamson and we spent a number of hours in the office of his garage talking numbers. He was still of a generation that did not care so much about numbers, but he was fascinated about what I told him. Whereas usually other people took pictures of his cars, I took pictures of all numbers I could see in his garage. He was serioulsy ill from cancer and had requested specifically that we not visit him during the periods he had his chemotherapy as he was too sick to talk to us, so we came in between the treatments. We sat in his 'lair' for a number of hours and he seriously seemed interested and seemed to enjoy it. (A 'lair' is a kind of cozy retreat where hunter- gatherers, usually men- can enjoy and display their trophees).

This car was at that moment with Scott, so I could not inspect it and we talked about it only briefly. I had the impression he was a bit weary accepting Sandy's point of view. Scott showed me the car in his garage later. Here are two pictures.

I photographed all numbers. I was glad I did not have to write a page for NLB-2, NLB-3 or NLB-4 as the car has no connection to the low countries whatsoever. I still have to scrutinize the factory documents to see whether I can find more about the numbers in relation to the chassis number. I did it for all types 46 for our book (It was suggested to Bohuslav also to include the type 50 in our book, but as this book was becoming way oversized anyway, he would not hear of that).

Kees Jansen

The car in question?

http://www.sargentmetalworks.com/galler ... index.html

Hi Sandy!


Cris

I'm not convinced that the numerals on the chassis plate were made by a factory stamp.

Much as I hate to have to agree with you Mr L. I have to agree.I would like to see all the other numbers on the engine.

I would like to see something more like this....sorry about the double stamping of the first three,I did it in a hurry.