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Author:  hortig78rpm [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:13 pm ]
Post subject:  harrah`s bugattis

here a list of the bugattis, that william harrah once owened:
T10 pur sang
1926 brescia opera coupe ( now in nethercutt collection)
1926 T4o 3/4 seater grand sport
1927 T35B
1927 T44 roadsder/F.Gerber
1931 T41 royale coupe de ville/binder
1931 T41 royale berline de voyage
1932 T5o coupe million guiet / former ken purdy
1932 T46/5o coupe profile ( now with louwman)
1937 T57 ventoux
1937 T57 sc atalante
1938 T57 4 door sedan /graber
1939 T57c convert. coupe/gangloff
1939 T57c coupe/gangloff
1952 T1o1c coupe/antim
? T52 baby bugatti

regards
mike

Author:  Johan Buchner [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:34 pm ]
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Mike this a great idea! I will do a post on each one that I know the chassis numbers of and I will place the available photos. That T23 is beautiful by the way, but I will get to that one. In the mean time herewith the T10 :
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The well known prototype. According to Norbert Steinhauser this car is quite different now to what it was when Ettore first unveiled it. It underwent a lot of development changes while preparations for the introduction of the T13 was underway.

Author:  Johan Buchner [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:45 pm ]
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T23
Chassis Number : 2862
Engine Number : 1259
Coachwork : Opera Coupe by Gaston Grummer
Owner : Nethercutt Trust.
This highly original car, including the body's leather-covering, was one of the consignment of cars J.B. Nethercutt sold to Harrah during the 1960s. After his death the collection, now owned by the Holiday Inn Group, was sold off and J.B. bought back most of the cars he sold to Bill Harrah.

I have no idea about the identity of the T40, the T35 or the T44. Anybody?

Author:  Johan Buchner [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:54 pm ]
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The two T41 Royales. The top one, Chassis 41150, engine number 6 may have been the second Royale built. Bill Harrah's second Royale Chassis 41111, engine number 2, was, of course the beautiful Esders Roadster. In the late 1930s it was re-bodied by Binder with the present Coupe De Ville body. These two cars are so well known, and Wiki so complete that I have no hesitation in recommending it as a great source for accurate information on all 6 Royales.
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Author:  DJ Dirk [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:57 pm ]
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i saw it in Nethercutt back in 2006
according to them it is still unrestored/original

i'll post some pictures of the car up later

Author:  Johan Buchner [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:07 pm ]
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T50
Chassis Number : 50117
Engine number : unknown.
Coachwork : Coupe by Million Guiet.
As Mike pointed out this car was made famous by being owned by that great enthusiast Ken Purdy, before Bill Harrah acquired it. The top photo shows it as it was when owned by Purdy and Harrah. The second photo shows it as it is today, restored back to its original appearance - I think.

Author:  Johan Buchner [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:17 pm ]
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T46/50T
Chassis Number : 46546
Engine Number : unknown but apparently a T50 engine ex 50146.
Coachwork : Jean Bugatti Coupe Semi-Profilee
One the most beautiful Bugattis with one of the most confusing histories. What is in Wiki does not correspond with the chassis lists in Magnum, but I believe thanks to Kees Jansen the entire history of this car is now known. I suspect the information in Wiki comes from the Dutch Bugatti register, so is probably definitive. Never mind the confusion, just enjoy the beauty.

Author:  Johan Buchner [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:29 pm ]
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Of the 4 T57 and 1 T57S I know nothing about either the Ventoux or the Cangloff Cabriolet. Herewith the info on the T57S
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Chassis Number : 57551
Engine Number : 30S
Coachwork : Atalante, possibly number 13
Bill Harrah won the 1976 Pebble Beach Concours with this car. Coming up for sale soon.

Author:  Johan Buchner [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:44 pm ]
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T57
Chassis Number : 57670
Engine Number : 490
Coachwork : 4 door saloon by Graber.
A lovely understated elegant Bugatti. According to a report by Jaap Braam Ruben (see Wiki) the present blue colour and Bedford whipcord interior may have been added by Bill Harrah. I do not know the original specification

Author:  Johan Buchner [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:55 pm ]
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T57C
Chassis Number : 57775
Engine Number : 74C
Coachwork : Atalante type 2 seat Coupe by Gangloff.
J.B. Nethercutt won the 1959 Pebble Beach Concours with this car before selling to Bill Harrah. One of the cars bought back by J.B. after Bill Harrah's death. A very beautiful car, it is still in The Nethercutt Collection

Author:  Johan Buchner [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:05 pm ]
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Just received a private message from Uwe. Herewith the information on the Harrah T40. Which leaves the T35, T44 and the 2 T57s unacounted for. If anyone can provide information on these cars we will have a record of all the Harrah Bugattis.
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T40
Chassis Number : 40920
Engine Number : 21
Coachwork : Cabriolet by Graber.
According to Wiki this car is still in what remains of Bill Harrah grand vision. I suppose without someone like Bill Harrah to guard over this fantastic collection, its demise was inevitable. I think it is a pity.

Author:  Johan Buchner [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:16 pm ]
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And thanks to tireless Uwe herewith the Harrah T44 :

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Chassis Number : 44857
Engine Number : 584
Coachwork : Roadster by F. Gerber from Switzerland.
This car has appeared at several auctions recently, but I never realised it was the Harrah car. Thanks Uwe, now, about the T46 and T30 you e-mailed me about - are you sure they are both Harrah cars?

Author:  DJ Dirk [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:55 am ]
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Johan Buchner wrote:
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T50
Chassis Number : 50117
Engine number : unknown.
Coachwork : Coupe by Million Guiet.


That's 2003 Louis Vuitton Classic in Parc de Saint-Cloud, Paris
i still have some shots from then aswell




somewhere

Author:  DJ Dirk [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:56 am ]
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Johan Buchner wrote:
And thanks to tireless Uwe herewith the Harrah T44 :

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Chassis Number : 44857
Engine Number : 584
Coachwork : Roadster by F. Gerber from Switzerland.
This car has appeared at several auctions recently, but I never realised it was the Harrah car. Thanks Uwe, now, about the T46 and T30 you e-mailed me about - are you sure they are both Harrah cars?


That's RM Auctions in Monterey
do you know what year? because i can't remember seeing that car

i'll need to check in my catalogue's & images for that one then

Author:  DJ Dirk [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:59 am ]
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Johan Buchner wrote:
Chassis Number : 57551
Engine Number : 30S
Coachwork : Atalante, possibly number 13
Bill Harrah won the 1976 Pebble Beach Concours with this car. Coming up for sale soon.


You mean, did not sell at RM Arizona last weekend

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