For legal reasons unfortunately only one cutout of the photo possible:
http://img8.myimg.de/Bugatti37AEinsiedelTargaF63461.jpg

Huldreich Heusser had the number 945-R. Einsiedel and Heusser were obviously well friendly!
http://img8.myimg.de/Bugatti35BHeusserSchauinsa03de.jpg

It is said that bachelor Huldreich Heusser and Margot von Gans (divorced from von Einsiedel since 1925, but keeping the name) had more than just a professional relationship.

I should imagine that despite the licence plates the 35B and the T37A were German cars, perhaps registered in Switzerland on the way down to Italy, hence the two adjecent numbers (495-R and 496-R). On the other hand, this does not make sense, since Heusser´s 35B still ran at the 1928 Schauinsland hill climb with Swiss plates, when it could have been re-registered if it was an Omnia, Munich delivered car.
Interesting !

When I look at the photograph of the 35B, I think this is the T37 or an early T35 .
Small brake drums, small radiator, brake kable angle to chassis.

Here a further photo of the 35B. Heusser had bought the car of Josef Merz.
http://img8.myimg.de/Bugatti35BHeusserSchauins55620.jpg

Hi Uwe,

Did you know if the swiss did have personal license plates before the second WW?
This could be an answer to phothographs from different cars with the same license plate.

Erik

I unfortunately do not have more than one photo for the moment.

For legal reasons unfortunately only one cutout of the photo possible:
- #46 IV Gran Premio Reale di Roma
http://img8.myimg.de/Bugatti37AEinsiedelRoma174142.jpg[/quote]

Don't be ridiculous: No copyright exists on photographs of over 80 years old, as any lawyer can confirm.
Why not give us the whole picture?

Indeed, I believe for photos and articles it is 30 years, for music it is 50 years. Who can confirm / correct this?

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Although I decided not to post in this board anymore, I do this now in order to protect Uwe. May be the wording "legal reasons" does not fit here, but one has to consider that English is not the mother tongue of some - or even most - here.
The reason is quite simple - I did not allow him to post the full pictures. My archive includes numerous photos never published before, most of them from private sources, of which some even had been acquired by buying. It also includes a lot of pictures which had been submitted to me by third parties under the condition that I don't spread them, or even keep them confidential. I'm doing my very best to fulfill such restrictions, and if I share such pictures on a private basis - as I did with Uwe - I expect the same. However, the topic of the Einsiedel car which reportedly has a German (= Omnia delivery) chassis number is interesting enough to prove that the car was Swiss registered. And for such prove cutouts showing plate and race number I believe are sufficient.

Some posters here believe that historical photos have no valid copyright anymore. They are wrong, and if they had been advised so by a lawyer they should change him. There is a difference between creator's copyrights and commercial copyrights. Most of the famous motorsport photo archives like Klementaski, Glass, Zagari etc. had been acquired from the creators or their heirs by commercial archives, and are marketed by these. In these cases the original creator copyright as not applicable anymore, but a commercial one has been put in place by the purchase. I know what I'm talking about, because I had been victim of such copyright claims some time ago. Ironically not based on photos posted by myself somewhere in a board, but on hotlinking of others to my server, which was made possible by my inexperience if not to say stupidity. They could not sue the posters, because they had been anonymous, but the hotlink disclosed my domain which of course is registered on real data. This backdoor is closed of course in the meantime.

Back to the main topic. Heusser's T35B indeed has the small brake drums, but that is normal for a 1927 model. But of course if has the wider Targa radiator, and not the narrow one of the early GP cars and the T35A/T37/T37A.
Heusser was of Swiss origin, I even believe he still had the Swiss citizenship despite living in Germany. Therefore it is more than likely that he was able to register cars in Switzerland rather easily. One has to remember that German import duties in that era had been very high, for motor cars even up to 100 %. So it is understandable that he registered the T35B, which he locally bought from Josef Merz, in Zürich.
The fact that the registration of the Einsiedel car differs only on the last digit shows that both cars had been registered together the same day, it also confirms that Heusser had not taken over Merz' registration, which was personal anyway and not fixed to the car.
Omnia was the German importer, meaning they had to arrange customs clearing including payment of duties and taxes, before they sold the cars to their final owners. It would have been pure nonsens to re-export a car already imported to Germany to Switzerland, because buying it locally would have been much cheaper, new or second hand. Therefore it is my firm belief that Heusser bought his spouse's car in Switzerland.

Hello Michael,

Why don't you want to post anymore?

Regards, Jeroen

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Because I warned him (and all others involved) about a fight on the forum between him, Johan and perhaps even another person.

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Too true, too true. A fight which I won by the way. And lest we forget, I'm still posting on Bugattibuilder.com

I am still
Johan

Indeed I suspected that the wording "legal reasons" might not fit here, but thought it was worth a try to get hold of the picture. Before reverting to the subject of this thread allow me to explain that there is only one type of copyright and it is creator's copyrights. Once it is expired (in many countries now 70 years after the death of a known creator) its subject falls into the public domain. Michael's "commercial copyrights" (certainly not a current legal term) refers to other legal instruments to control the right to publish, by agreement and under common law provisions.

But enough of this. According to Tragatsch Margot Einsiedel's T37A after 1929 went to Beatrice Gilka-Botzow and from her in 1934 to Helmut Schellenberg. If this is correct, this particular 37A was probably at some point of time imported into Germany. As very few T37a's were delivered new to Switzerland at the time of its purchase it may perhaps also be conceivable that delivery to Omnia in Munich in the Molsheim records does not necessarily mean that Omnia paid the import duties on it. Actually the car itself could have been delivered directly to Huldreich Heusser in Switzerland, with only the paperwork channeled via Omnia.

I certainly hope that Michael will reconsider joining this board, as certainly I are interested in what he has to say. In my opinion this board is for exchangin information and views, rather than fights or legal battles.

There is some confusion concerning Countess Einsiedel and her ownership of 37314. It is possible that Tragatsch was wrong in describing the car passing from Margot Einsiedel to Beatrix Gilka-Botzøw. Here's why:-

1) there is proof that this car did belong to a Countess Einsiedel before Gilka-Botzöw - but NOT Margot Einsiedel.

2) "Beatrix Gilka-Botzøw" was born on the 2nd September 1908 in Berlin. On the 7th August 1930, aged almost 22, she married Carl-Albrecht Gilka-Botzöw. So only her married name is Gilka-Botzöw.

3) As for her maiden name - Countess Beatrix von Einsiedel. So the car "passed" in legal ownership from Countess Beatrix Einsiedel to Mrs Beatrix Gilka-Botzöw by way of name change on marriage.

4) If 37314 did pass from Margot to Beatrix then the transfer was between distantly related sisters-in-law.

Regards,
Simon