"L'homme qui ressuscite les Bugatti"

I understand there is quite an active cell of Bugatti manufacturers in France. According to the proprietor's interview in "La rage de l'automobile" (2009) : "Depuis 89, les lieux ont vu naitre 250 moteurs au bas mot."

in this case , we have one more country with a reason to be upset .

Don't forget our friend in Hungary. I guess replica building is everywhere. But the Brits seem to have invented avoiding import taxes. I see it everywhere.

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Vive la Marque !!

Who is building "Bugattis" in Hungary please ?

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Vive la Marque !!

Hallo!
Is it a question about me? No, I'm not an Hungarian. Currently I'm playing in sandpit. Saying about what is false and what is true, this way od forming is named "forming on false". It is not depend on what you do. I mean you work honestly or falsify.
Digression about replicas: Hellenistic art also saved because of Roman copies. It is sad but it is true.
Herman, you asked for more technology.
Best Regards
Marek

This is something different, it was - and still is - a common "game". One has to pay import duty (10 %) and VAT on the so-called "border-crossing value", meaning the purchase price plus freight and costs. A false contract with lower price is issued between seller and buyer and presented to the customs office.

The standard tariff number for passenger vehicles - new or used - is 8703, as written above 10 % import duty is applicable. Plus the import sales tax which is the substitute for the VAT and therefore equivalent to it. Certain historic cars (not all, there are some rules to fulfill, which in practice are subject to the individual interpretation of the acting customs officer, but REAL Bugattis are undisputable) can be imported under tariff number 9705 (WORKS OF ART, COLLECTORS' PIECES AND ANTIQUES) at a reduced customs tariff rate of 5 %. As these items are also free of VAT when sold within the EU the import sales tax is not applicable. Of course this duty can also additionally illegally reduced by false item values.

The import procedure is part of the chain to get the car road registered, as the customs document is required by the registration office. So if you import a "Pur Sang" as new car, road registration will not be possible. An option would be to declare it as second hand car, built 1927/28/29, with the same duties and taxes as new ones, but probably a good trained customs officer will change the declaration from 8703 to 9705.

The essence of this is clear - if you import a Pur Sang Bugatti (from outside the EU, e.g. from Argentina) you have to do this as historic car in order to get it road registered, and by doing so you are illegally evade taxes!

if you import a new argentina car to germany , but in the custom papers it is from 1928 , you save about 30 000€ So the custom people are not realy care about original , but about 30 000€ .

Would the Germans import such a car to evade taxes? I can't imagine that. Imagine throwing a pinch of this Bugatti, a story, an old document, or a 50.000 Euro chassis plate you bought at Retromobile that belongs to an existing car - mix it all up and Puff - you've a 1928 car.... suddenly you have an original, part original, suspected to be original, or hopefully original. If you can't find Bugatti DNA at a jumble, use a body part of a former owner or passenger or victim, that works also - well it did for a while on one car ......

On other notes, 45 people were arrested , and a load of cars seized from a shop making replica Fiats, Siatas,etc, in north Italy 2 weeks ago. Police said the copies were poor quality. They would have been better off doing better quality replicas .

I'm going to make a statement and you only need respond if you disagree strongly :

1) This is how chassis 57473 ended ; mangled and torn apart by the train.

2) Some components may very well have been retrieved from a scrap-yard some years later but the chassis frame is not among them.

3) It is difficult to imagine a calamity befalling a car which would destroy everything except the chassis frame, therefore if only the chassis frame survive then usually the chassis frame is all that survived the calamity. Or it was an unused frame, ex-factory, but I digress.

4) For a Bugatti to lay claim to a history at the very least the frame must have left through the gates of Molsheim, preferably before 1940.

5) Some of the world's smartest collectors, dealers and restoration specialists believed they could restore 57473 back to rude good health, but alas they succeeded only in building a very beautiful car that looks just like a real Bugatti. Fail. Big fail. Huge. Looks like a fool, pants on the ground.

Kind Regards
Johan Buchner

Hi Johan,
you forgot 5), otherwise completely correctly

I got you Uwe, I edited my post! Which makes me the saddest man ever.

I remain Proudly
Johan

edit again,make 6 into 5 Voila.

2) Some pieces did leave the junk yard and have been put on the replica , twice.
3) The chassis frame and all steel parts to this wreck were sorted into piles in two parts of the junk yard. The aluminum was in the one pile, separated in the junk yard. As the steel pile was crushed and hauled off to be melted down, the aluminium pile remained because there was not enough to combine for the melt. In the time between the piles existing and one disappearing, some of the mechanical parts ''may have'' walked away over time. That is a fact - some people were there during the time.
4) No piece, not a single molecule of the chassis of the wreck survived.
5) There was never a belief from anyone who touched this replica that any of it was a restoration of the actual car. All those involved were all well paid and all have an interest in creating a fantastic story of the reincarnation of this long lost car.

There is no mystery, no unanswered questions. There has just been a reconstitution of the facts, and omitting a degree of truth , all of which those involved has been paid for ''tuning'' the story. Someday a novice will see it, have the money, have to have it, and there is enough documentation to steer the replica into a high value sale without any further questions. It happens all the time.