It is currently Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:29 pm

All times are UTC + 1 hour




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Bugatti type 57 Stelvio Gangloff #57164. any info?
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:13 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 12, 2004 4:26 pm
Posts: 2620
Location: Reeuwijk, The Netherlands
Of course there is the info from the Bonhams site, which I replicated here, but I cannot seem to find any other info. Who has more info on this car? It seems to be highly original.

Quote:
Bugatti Type 57 chassis 57164 was completed in May 1934, one of the first one hundred of its type built. Its coachwork – which today would be generically described as a Stelvio Cabriolet – was entered on Bugatti’s books as a Double Cabriolet built by Gangloff of Colmar. Completed on August 14, 1934, it was built to the order of Bugatti dealer Descollas for its client Marcel Bertrand of Toulon, France to whom it was delivered on August 18, 1934.

Some prior owner history contends that it may have been shown on the Bugatti stand at the 1935 Paris show held in late 1934. Its delivery history does not support that contention.

In April 1936 it was purchased by a Monsieur Renaud of Marseille, France. French registration records have it next being re-registered in November 1954, indicating it may have remained in Renaud’s ownership through the war. In 1958 it began to pass through the hands of several dealers until it was bought by Lyman Greenlee in Anderson, Indiana in 1960 through Bugatti dealer Jean De Dobbeleer, still on its 1954 French registration number.

It came into the current family ownership only two years later and has been in their caring, sympathetic stewardship since then, a remarkable single family ownership provenance enduring for nearly a half century.

Its colors (Ivory with a Maroon accent and wire wheels), patina and overall presentation indicate that in the Fifties it got the cosmetic attention to paint and upholstery that a twenty year old Bugatti rated and that hasn’t been touched since. The faded Beige cloth top may have been replaced at some point; it survives today as an example of sensitive textile conservation.

The coachwork by Gangloff of Colmar is highly unusual and does not fit many of the characteristics of the rather loose definition of the Stelvio Cabriolet designed by Jean Bugatti and interpreted by Gangloff.

Many aspects reflect Bugatti practice including the steeply raked windshield, chrome radiator surround with chromed vertical shutters and teardrop fenders.

Others, however are highly unusual.
• Flat section fenders with centered splines
• Teardrop front fenders with defined separation from the narrow, subtle running boards
• Rear-hinged doors
• Rear wheel spats with teardrop accents echoed three times in the front fenders and twice in the rear
• Separately constructed bustle-style trunk
• Five window, four-seat coachwork
• Rear-mounted single spare wheel and tire
• The sweep panel which characterizes Jean Bugatti coachwork is worked subtly into the main body lines
• A top mechanism which appears to fold into a compact package almost flat with the coachwork.

It expresses a distinctively different visual identity and coachwork balance from the more representative Gangloff-bodied Stelvio Cabriolets, making it an important example for its configuration in addition to its exceptional original condition, reflecting its long term single family ownership.

The earliest series rigid engine mount, mechanical brake Type 57s with engines cast without provision for the supercharger drive are the foundation of the Bugatti Type 57 reputation. This very early Gangloff Double Cabriolet, s/n 57164, is not only emblematic of the very earliest series as conceived and created by Jean Bugatti but also a particularly sympathetically preserved, intact, rare example of a largely unrestored Bugatti Type 57.

_________________
Vive la Marque !!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:27 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:18 am
Posts: 1008
Location: Netherlands, Nieuwegein
Supposedly the car has been in one family for almost 50 years, seems it didn't come out much. At least I never saw any picture of it before.

Some info from PY Laugier's T57S book:
Quant à Marcel Bertrand, sa première Bugatti est déjà un Type 57,
la 57164 à moteur 63, Cabriolet Gangloff, livré le 18 août 1934 par le concessionnaire
Descollas de Marseille. Elle est immatriculée sous le numéro 56YU3 le
21 août 1934. Le neveu de Marcel se souvient qu’avec cette première Bugatti,
l’oncle avait eu un grave accident : il croisa un bus à la sortie d’un pont à Sallines
et, déporté par le souffle d’air, il fut envoyé contre l’une des piles du pont, et fut
blessé assez grièvement. Il l’a revendue le 15 avril 1936, à un M. Renaud à
Marseille.
From: http://www.bugattibook.com/data/dataimages/upload/Bugatti236to247.pdf

So the car did have a serious accident. Maybe it had some restyling done to the body after that. The body certainly seems to be a one-off, not a real Stelvio.

_________________
www.BugattiPage.com
www.BugattiRevue.com
www.BugattiAircraft.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:49 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 12, 2004 4:26 pm
Posts: 2620
Location: Reeuwijk, The Netherlands
I get the same comments on mail:

-The Gangloff plaque seems not to have the patina the rest of the car has.
-The ridge in the bonnet/hood does not continue in the body of the car
-The front fenders by Gangloff? Doubtfull at least.
-Exterior hinges for the roof. early Stelvios have the mechanisme inside.
-doors open frontwise
-front fenders and side bars are 2 different pieces, and do not line up nicely.
-backside is messy, with a trunk probably from a Ventoux, and to high on the chassis.

Till so far my Email messenger.

This car probably left the factory as a Stelvio, but after the crash has been repaired and fitted with leftover bodywork, which did not fit too well. I am curious to see what will happen to the car.

_________________
Vive la Marque !!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3 posts ] 

All times are UTC + 1 hour


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 23 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Valid CSS :: Valid XHTML Copyright © 2007 by Bugattibuilder.com :: Disclaimer :: Contact :: Advertising possibilities

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group