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 Post subject: How many people were killed in a Bugatti?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:52 pm 
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Another thread went off topic, but in an interesting way.

How many people lost their lives in a Bugatti?

-Jean Bugatti (11 aug 1939, Bugatti type 57C)

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Rene Chatard & Jeanine Vacheron died 25/08/1955 when Rene's Bugatti T57S Atlantic (57473) was hit by a train.

Here's an interesting question to be added to this thread : Who was the first person to die in a Bugatti?

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Oh by the way Herman, Jean died in a Type (not type) 57G (not 57C).

Details Herman, details.

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To my best knowlegde the 1939 Le Mans car was a type 57C, the 1937 cars were type 57G.

Your books might state otherwise, and then I would be more then interested to know...

Interesting side question: What happened to the wreck of the car? I have read somewhere that they buried it?

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by BUGATTI TRUST:
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Bugatti Type 57G
'Tank bodied' sports racing car

Identifying Features:
Streamlined 'Tank' body

Years Made:
1936, 1939

Number Made:
4

Dimensions:
Wheelbase: (1936-1937) 117.3ins, 2.98m; (1939) 130ins, 3.3m

Wheels:
Type: Bugatti T59 wire

Crossbreeding with Other Types:
1936-1937: T57S frame, 1939: T57C frame


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:58 pm 
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Ah crap! I just assumed that all 57 Tanks were called T57G, but you are right, the one Jean died in was based on a T57C chassis, the earlier tanks were T57S based. You know Herman, every single time I start enjoying taking the moral high-tone with you, you spoil my fun with the correct facts. Most inconsiderate of you.

Apparently the car in which Jean died was cut up and the parts buried in the grounds of the factory.

Now I am going to go and sulk. Happy?

Johan

PS. Nice try Uwe, thanks. Why can't you be more like Uwe, Herman?


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1) Stand to be corrected, but didn't Pierre De Vizcaya fall out of his Bugatti and die whilst trying to keep his dog in the car?

2) Does the American sargeant sucked onto the propeller of a Bugatti aero engine on 16/11/1917 count?

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Johan Buchner wrote:
Ah crap! I just assumed ...


Assumptions Johan, assumptions. :lol:


Another death in a Bugatti is Van Slijpe who died in 40471, if I remember correctly in the Mille Miglia. I saw the car in my home town when it was being restored.

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assumptions are the mother of fuck-ups...

The propellor accident: Valid!

And Johan, I do the guesswork, you do the reading... :)

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who was killed in a bugatti??
first count czaykowski, then juneck, for he was one of the best customers
for bugatti in the 2o`s. and maybe the most famous: dancer isabelle duncan, who is said to have been stragled while driving up on the mountains of monte carlo, her scarf wound up in the rear wheel of her T35( or T37, i really forgot about that)

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Ing. Felix Kortz died in a car accident in 1928. Bugatti isn't confirmed, but probable.


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hortig78rpm wrote:
who was killed in a bugatti??
first count czaykowski, then juneck, for he was one of the best customers
for bugatti in the 2o`s. and maybe the most famous: dancer isabelle duncan, who is said to have been stragled while driving up on the mountains of monte carlo, her scarf wound up in the rear wheel of her T35( or T37, i really forgot about that)

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Juneck died in 1928 (Germany GP ?)
Czaykowsky in 1932


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Isadora Duncan was killed in an Amilcar. I believe this is not the first time I've pointed this out. Allow me the pleasure of doing so again : Isadora Duncan was killed in an Amilcar. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Herman are we also allowed to say fuck, or just you?

Johan

PS. Isadora Duncan - Amilcar - Bugatti innocent. grrrrrrrr....... :evil:


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Depends on the context...

To add to the discussion:
Rene Kippeurt was killed at Le Mans 1937 in a type 44.

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